PPG Black paint ...need help

Craig Lewis

Craig Lewis

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If I paint my fenders with black single stage urethane, does PPG offer a "blacker" black?:confused:

Any thoughts on what would look the most authentic? ....thanks :)
 
You will find that they have a couple of blacks at PPG.

The following is a bit old in the brain so the details are fuzzy, but it should be basically correct. Just talk to the dealer.

The off the shelf concept black is based with a yellow.

There is, though the dealer may get it confused with a base coat number, a blue based black that I am told is darker. I bought this black. The dealer has to mix it up.

I can not say it is darker then the off the shelf black, but it does look nice sprayed out.

What is more original is always and interesting question. I am not sure there is a good answer. I have seen some very nice areas of original black dipped paint and some NOS fenders. The dip painted black just has a different look then what you get with modern paints. The gloss and tint just have a different look, but I can not describe the differences. You really have to have some special training to know how to describe the differences properly. I feel lucky just being able to tell some differences.
 
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I seem to remember that Concepts 2100 is the black that is "blackest".

Rememberd Wrong.......I now think Aerocraft (below) is correct.
 
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It has been my experience that PPG DCC 9300 is the black of preference. I have been told that it is "blue based". Gar Williams
 
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Craig,

I used the PPG DCC 9300 on my Phaeton fenders. I sampled several other blacks, and found this to be the blackest black I could find at the time, ten years ago. According to my local automotive paint supplier, it's still the balckest. This paint stands up to spilled gas on the engine pan as well.

A word of caution, learned the hard way by me; Don't spray it and wait several months before wet sanding and rubbing out. That's what I did, and the paint cures as hard as granite. I sprayed the fenders and aprons and put them in the attic until I had the time to sand and buff, several months down the road. My hands and arms felt like they would fall off! So, once sprayed, at the very least, do your wet sanding as soon as possible to save yourself a lot of backbreaking work.

Just a while back, I did need to redo both my engine pans, as I laid a couple scratches in them from removal. What a drag, but that's what happened. I sprayed the pans in the morning, wet sanded and polished mid-day, and installed late afternoon. They look as good as the fenders, all in one day. That paint is tough.

Dave Lopes
 

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henry494 said:
Craig,

I used the PPG DCC 9300 on my Phaeton fenders. I sampled several other blacks, and found this to be the blackest black I could find at the time, ten years ago. According to my local automotive paint supplier, it's still the balckest. This paint stands up to spilled gas on the engine pan as well.

A word of caution, learned the hard way by me; Don't spray it and wait several months before wet sanding and rubbing out. That's what I did, and the paint cures as hard as granite. I sprayed the fenders and aprons and put them in the attic until I had the time to sand and buff, several months down the road. My hands and arms felt like they would fall off! So, once sprayed, at the very least, do your wet sanding as soon as possible to save yourself a lot of backbreaking work.

Just a while back, I did need to redo both my engine pans, as I laid a couple scratches in them from removal. What a drag, but that's what happened. I sprayed the pans in the morning, wet sanded and polished mid-day, and installed late afternoon. They look as good as the fenders, all in one day. That paint is tough.

Dave Lopes
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Hi Dave,:)
I guess in the hot california sun you can do that but here in cold:eek: Illinois it takes a while for the paint to cure. I have to wait (in the winter) about 2to 3 days and then wet sand for rubbing. if I don't I have been getting a clogging of the paper with paint.
Of course it was stored in a cold garage at about 40 to 50 degrees and I think it just stopped the curing process cold. (no pun intended)
Ken:D
 
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