Power Nation Flathead

Darrell S said:
Are any races like this happening in the PNW? I would love to see some of these live. Or any other events with flatheads?
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I am not sure the new schedules are out yet.
Look up "West Coast Vintage Racers", website.
Also, "Golden Wheels".
A couple years ago, the Golden Wheels were running every Friday night at Monroe.

You may have to wait for the virus to quiet down now.
 
Saw the comments above about a turbo charger on a FH. Many years ago there was a man from I believe Belleville KS. with a turbocharged FH in a 40 coupe that he ran on propane. It sure seemed to run good.
 
There are many housing options for turbochargers. Including some that can be used for BIG boost on our, cold exhaust Flatheads.
 
A tip of the hat to guys like Ronnieroadster, who show the world that he
can build a top notch record holding Ford Flathead racing operation.

That has to take a special person that can spend the money, time and
expertise to do what he has accomplished. ;););) Thumbs UP
 

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Here's a little story that might be interesting to some of you. In the nineties, I ran my Chrysler hemi powered vintage dirt modified in the IMCA "Old Timers" racing club. We ran intermission races at tracks in southern Minnesota and Iowa, and generally had a pretty good time. There were a lot of small block Chevy's a couple of 351 Fords, a track roadster with a nailhead, and a couple of flatheads; you know, the usual mix of stuff. I was not much of a driver, and usually did my best "bench racing" around the late night bonfire.

One night, in Fairmont, MN about 1995, some guys showed up with a '36 Ford 5-window coupe with a flathead Ford. Nobody knew who the were or where they came from. To make a long story short, these guys absolutely "blew our doors off". None of us were even close and these guys dominated that night. We never saw them before, and never saw them again and still have no idea who they were. We were just glad they never showed up again.

Me? I'm sure my car was faster:D, but I was a terrible driver.:o "Ol' Ron" even says that in the latter stages, just about all of the increases in lap times came from improvement in handling, not engine changes. I'm going to agree with him.

Yeah, right.
 
Hey Denny, Was that '36 A cream white colored 5 window that had tri-power on it ?
In 1999 (if I remember correctly) there was a Big Meet (80 + vintage race cars) held
in Webster City, Ia.
Carter brought YOUR hemi vintage car there to drive it, and I was there with my '40
Ford cp. I had a 276 flathead with a half-assed cam and a couple 94's.
There was this cream colored '36 coupe with a highly modified flathead with 3 97's.
I think he was from northern Missouri, just south of the Iowa border. That car was
driven by the original builder of it. He was a Very Good older seasoned racer and he
wasn't afraid to hang it out in the corners, he knew how to handle that car.

Here's my old '40...Click on pics to Enlarge.
 

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Lanny, It was probably the same car. I don't remember the color, but I do remember it had tri-carbs. The guy could drive, and the car had a lot of power

It's nice to see a couple of pictures of your car again. It was a very well done vehicle and I was always impressed by it. I liked Chuck's '34 as well. Boy, those picture really bring back the memories. Carter was a much better driver than I was (although a bit hard on the equipment), but I had to take it out once in a while.
 
See if I can post this here. A long term project, (17 years) that I finally finished.It's not traditional but it is a Flathead. 4 sequentially activated turbos, efi, coil per cylinder. 214hp @4555rpm and 285ft/lbs @ 3752rpm at the wheels @5lb boost. The maths on drive train losses could lead to 285hp 380ft/lbs at 25% loss, drive train is auto, IRS so maybe.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmLSHT1rU5leMD-_IJICv5Q
 
Although "off-topic", I "clicked" on your video, but there wasn't much there (13 seconds).

It seems like a lot of effort for not much return; Joe Abbin in Arizona was able to dyno 335 out of a Weiand (I think) supercharged 284" flathead. I also think he ran 13's in the quarter with it. (I also remember a guy who ran 12's with a 265" injected flathead of his own design in a steel full-bodied '32 coupe.

We need more specific information. This may go nowhere with the rest of the guys here, but I am interested in wringing the last bit of performance out of a flathead, no matter how you do it.
 
tubman said:
It seems like a lot of effort for not much return; Joe Abbin in Arizona was able to dyno 335 out of a Weiand (I think) supercharged 284" flathead. I also think he ran 13's in the quarter with it. (I also remember a guy who ran 12's with a 265" injected flathead of his own design in a steel full-bodied '32 coupe.
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Ho hum.
 
tubman said:
"Pete" : Interesting response. Care to elucidate?
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Elucidating.

1- "It seems like a lot of effort for not much return;"
Yes.

2- "Joe Abbin in Arizona was able to dyno 335 out of a Weiand (I think)
supercharged 284" flathead.supercharged "284" flathead."

Ho hum. A good effort but should have been FAR better for the time
it came. There were quite a few doing that and more in the mid 50's
NATURALLY ASPIRATED on av gas or alcohol.
Many ran between 115 and 120 in the 11's including myself.
These were 2300 lb cars. You can plug those numbers in the formula
and see what kind of hp that was at the rear wheels.

3- As far as the 12 second 32 with a 265 engine, I drove that car once
and it was a real dog. My son drove it the same day and he said the
same thing. It was more like 20 seconds. Must have been a totally
different engine when it did 12's.

4- All of this and more has been discussed here on this forum several
times in the past and can be found easily with the search.

Done elucidating...Ho hum.
 
1- "It seems like a lot of effort for not much return;"
Yes.

Yes, with a flathead, you'll never spend so much to go so slow...

Actually, I think you guys are too hard on flattyefi...it was his first [and possibly last!] post. I think anyone who plays with flatheads, particularly in a performance type build, deserves appreciation for keeping the legend alive.
 
Brian said:
Yes, with a flathead, you'll never spend so much to go so slow...

Actually, I think you guys are too hard on flattyefi...it was his first [and possibly last!] post. I think anyone who plays with flatheads, particularly in a performance type build, deserves appreciation for keeping the legend alive.
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It wasn't meant to be a put down, it was just an honest appraisal. The same basic stuff he is playing with is standard on LS and other engines today. He did ok for as far as he went.
 
Zeke3 said:
I would like to see some pictures of the modified hardware on the engine.
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I agree, I hope flattyefi comes back with some good pictures and
shares information about his engine build. There are a lot of members
here that would like to see and hear what he has done to his flatty.





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Hi Thanks for the comments some asked for some details so below. Firstly "off topic" the first post asked where the 200hp engines were and then started including posts about turbo cars so I thought it was an OK place to post. Secondly the car wasn't built to be a race car, it's a street hotrod, the challenge was to adapt a whole lot of modern tech to a flathead, its not an LS so I wasn't expecting more than I got, in fact I was quite happy with the outcome, it is fun to drive on the street. I didn't want to become part of a competition.


Specs

Engine 8BA 3 5/16"Bore 4 1/8" Stroke 284 CID
Scat Crank

Scat Rods
Ross Pistons, Navarro Style, High Dome

Isky 400Jr cam
Johnson Adjustable lifters
Valves Manley 1.72" Inlet 1.5" Exhaust. Stock ports except for the larger valves.

Isky Dual Valve Springs
Flat Attack Heads
Manifolds Custom
Intercooler Air to Air Custom.

Electric Fan and Water Pump.
Toyota Supra Fuel Pump with boost referenced regulator

4 by Toyota CT12 Turbos Standard Waste Gates off 1G-GTE Toyota I6. 5psi boost limited.

Turbos Sequentially controlled using 2JZ-GTE parts via Engine Management System.
MegaSquirt MS3X V3.57 Engine Controller.
Sequential Fuel Injection, Ford 30lb Injectors.
Cam Sync Sensor mounts using old crab distributor drive and ProBillet distributor with a single tooth.

Coil Per Cylinder, Mazda RX8 Coils.

Trans Toyota A340E Auto .
Trans Controller MicroSqrt8.



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Thank you for getting back to us on this; it sounds interesting, especially for a street engine.

I sometimes have a problem figuring out what motivates "Pete". You can't discount his experience and skill, though.
 
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