Powder Coating, or what's cooking?

Stretch Cab

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Just had some powder coating done on the hand railings on a church I'm building, very interesting process. I see posts about sending wheels out to have them coated and what the cost should be. But I'm really curious about Powder Coating at home. I see the kits but what about the finish quality and how big a learning curve to get it right. In other words, is it worth it?:rolleyes:
 
I think Home Powdercoating is fine for small parts that you can easily get into the oven. I do know the surface preperation has a lot to do with the finished product. Bead Blasting or Sand Blasting is good and everything has to be absolutely Clean and OIL FREE.

If you have a lot of small parts and you will not catch hell for using the oven to bake your stuff, you might give it a try. I do not think the learning curve is at all bad as long as you follow the directions.

I have an outfit that does wire wheels and they really come out great. I check them and straighten them as necessary and fix any bad gouges. They Blast and Coat them. Price is not too bad considering everything. About $60.00 for wires and 50.00 for disc wheels. This is here in Southern California. I have heard in some other parts of the country, the cost is a bit less.

Chris
 
I'm considering it for small parts. I already have a blasting cabinet. Thinking about getting a used electric oven off Craigslist to install in the garage and use it exclusively for powdercoat.
 
Just learn to paint properly and leave the powder coating crap for your patio furnature, and hand railings.
 
I powder coated my wheels in an oven I picked from the trash.

The oven was wide enough, but not deep enough. I cut out the back of the oven and extended it with a box made from a piece of duct work I got from the trash.

Doing the wheel in the oven took some creativity.

I made a setup to bolt on the wheel and it let me put the powder on vertically. I then flipped it horizontally and put it on a stand on the rack and slide it in the oven. You can see a quick overview in my pictures.

Powder coating is a great tool for those who are residential and need to limit the paint they spray. Plus you can do it in the middle of a cold winter.
 

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I have an outfit that does wire wheels and they really come out great. I check them and straighten them as necessary and fix any bad gouges. They Blast and Coat them. Price is not too bad considering everything. About $60.00 for wires and 50.00 for disc wheels. This is here in Southern California. I have heard in some other parts of the country, the cost is a bit less.

Chris

Not in Columbus, OH. I got a quote a couple months ago to blast and powdercoat four wire wheels and the guy said..."Oh, probably between $500 and $600." I decided right then that my wheels will look just fine painted, thank you.
 
This topic comes up from time to time, and since we do both spray painting & powdercoating in-house, please allow me to offer my opinion. Many people do not understand what the properties of powder paint is. The similarities of liquid synthetic urethane paint vs. powder synthetic urethane paint are very, very close. Therefore saying one is better than the other is hard for me to accept. What most people do not realize is, that there are huge differences in quality of powder just like there is a huge difference between Tractor Supply $30 a gallon brand of urethane vs. PPG's Concept $200 a gallon urethane. To some people, the Tractor Supply quality is acceptable for their vehicle.

I have attended several schools by my supplier and the second biggest reason for powder painted durability/failure is excessive mil thickness. I have shown several visitors to my shop where we have powdercoated aluminum foil, ...and then you can crumple up the foil, flatten it out and the powder still adheres. While I have not tried it, in all liklihood if PPG's Concept were applied thin enough, it would probably withstand the same abuse. If you were to have 10mil thickness of either product on the foil, it would likely flake off. Just as in sprayed urethanes, mil thickness buildup causes less durability. That means if many coats are applied in powder, there will be less durability but THAT is not how most powders are applied.

One other point that needs to be made, thoroughly blasting the wheels, osphos washing, degreasing, pre-heating, and slow baking makes a much nicer result when top quality powder is used. Cutting any of those steps allows for the price to be less but each of those steps cost money to do. Overlooking the fixed overhead costs differences between two 'coaters', there is no way these outfits charging $50-$75 a piece can do all of these steps and charge that amount based on my experiences..
 
Love the home made oven! Topnotch powder coater near West Palm Beach charges $100.00 per wheel. I may get me a coating system one of these days, might add to the fun.......................
 
Brent that is some excellent info. Thank you.
I've had both good and bad quality powdercoating and I must say a bad powdercoat job is more serious than a bad spray.
The stuff is hard to remove, and as well, any filler materials will be lost when you finally get it stripped clean.
Brent can you recommend any brand names that I should watch for?... as I'm doing wheels next and certainly want good quality paint after all that work.
Thanks...Craig.
 
I use Tiger-Drylac powders, ...but again, (just like PPG offers different quality levels of liquid paint) it is all about the quality and freshness of the powder.

There are several paint strippers available for removing powdered paint if you get in a bind and need a "do-over".
 
Bret is 'spot-on' let me add this about that."CWPASADENA says...everything has to be absolutely Clean and OIL FREE." He's right too I'll add Iron Phosphated if possible.

Their are a number of products that can deliver about 150 mg per square foot coverage of Iron Phosphate to be powder coated...why? Because paint doesn't stick to metal. Iron Phosphate bonds with metal and paint sticks to Iron Phosphate.

If Zinc Phosphate is considered coating weights are around 300 mg per square foot, but do feel like a cat's tongue but hold more paint. Powder or liquid and usually give years more metal protection. Some zinc Phosphates are hot oil dipped without paint as well. These usually are under hood items.

Two kinds of finish...
1~A point of purchase finish which is what a home job usually consists of.
2~A warranted finish [Not a guaranteed finish] which is what one purchases in a the showroom.

But yes small well prepped item can be P-coated at home.

skip. What a cute dog Rusty Bolts has...looks like a dog I once had.
 
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