Painting--one or two stage

qmdv

qmdv

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I really do not like the clear cote look. How many have gone single stage and what are you thoughts. Thinking of either blue or brown for a 32 high boy. Frame and firewall black of course

Tim
 
I only shoot single stage urethane. It is on my avatar roadster and my Dearborn winning 40 wagon. Easy to shoot, easy to fix minor problems, becomes dust free fairly quickly and you can wet sand and rub it out. It does however contain hazardous chemicals like any catalyzed paint so you MUST take all precautions when shooting it. The clear coat stuff looks correct on a new car but not on an old one in my opinion.
 
There should be no difference in appearance between properly applied quality catalyzed clear coat and quality catalyzed single stage.
The photo.......clear or single stage?
 

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I get comments all the time asking what I painted my '38 truck with (I used a PPG single stage). I had a '51 Chevy that was single stage also and it got comments all the time too. Cant tell in a photo but in person there is a difference. I believe that the single stage has a softer look. I found the single stage to be really easy to use and easy to correct any flaws. I painted mine in the driveway 15 years ago and it still looks great.
 
Go with PPG DCC Concept Single Stage if your going this route. DG is another option but not many distributors have The Global line.
I would make the decision on going base/clear to single stage on color and intent on finish. Is there a difference in finish, yes.
 
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My '35 Cabriolet was done with single stage PPG Concept in Dearborn Blue. Receive many positive comments on it's appearance. Look at different cars with single stage and clear coat and then make your decision. Good luck.
 
Experience with single stage and base coat / clear. Prefer base coat + clear. I use
Southern Poly clears, they flow better than PPG and have more UV protection. Color
sanding and buffing is a snap. Color choice is more important on these old cars.
Preparation is the key.
 
Have a '32 high boy also. I chose a single stage Nason Urethane paint. You will get rock chips some time and touching up a single stage paint is MUCH easier than base coat/ clear coat any day.
 
Single stage for solid colors.
Base/Clear for metallic.

I don't think a metallic paint looks right on these older cars, hence my truck will be single stage. My 66 Mustang was silver metallic from the factory and is painted PPG base/clear.

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Both single stage and Bccc are great paints if you are using quality products like PPG, DuPont. base coat clear is probably the most forgiving to the do it your self guy as it acts and sprays much like the old lacquers that many of you are used to, and it's quick dry times allows you to make small corrections and the ability to nub sand dirt or debris before the final clear coat. In my opinion it takes a more experienced painter to yield great results with single stage. Most of the painters that learned to spray laquer then the single stage paints that became standard in the eighties can usually spray the newer base coat clears and water base paints like a Boss, but I see the newer generation of painters struggle to lay down a good single stage job out of the gun.
My thoughts are, if you are going to do it yourself do what you feel comfortable with. And if your the kinda guy that is taking his car to someone else and insists on using single stage and the painter is only used to spraying Bccc, get ready for many hours of cutting and buffing.
Here's some advice for people who want a really good paint job on a budget and don't want to tackle painting their car theirselves. Do al your body work yourself or have it done by someone reputable then buy good paint products from PPG or Dupont then take your car to the nearest econo paint or maco or whatever shop near you that does super cheap volume paint jobs and see if they will paint your car with your supplied materials. I have found that their is some pretty talented painters do the sheer volume of cars they paint in a week. I know one guy that sprays as many as 45 cars a week!
 
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