Oil pan removal

Sod Buster

Sod Buster

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Having a problem with the oil pan hanging up on the starter side on a 59ab, it seems hung up on that side for some reason, any suggestions would be welcome, it dropped down every where but that corner where the starter goes.
 
make sure that rear bolt on the upper side is removed. if its been on for a while may just need some extra coaxing . the rear seal between pan and clutch housing can make the rear stick more than the rest of the pan
 
ricspicup said:
make sure that rear bolt on the upper side is removed. if its been on for a while may just need some extra coaxing . the rear seal between pan and clutch housing can make the rear stick more than the rest of the pan
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Will do, it dropped about a half inch up front and down the drivers side, its just the starter corner, I'm not seeing any other bolts. I know these oil pan threads are fascinating, not, but I have looked through all the other threads I could find on oil pans and did not find this particular problem.
 
The starter at least on an 8BA has a bracket that attaches to the oil pan for extra support. Could it be hanging on that?

JB
 
3twinridges said:
The starter at least on an 8BA has a bracket that attaches to the oil pan for extra support. Could it be hanging on that?

JB
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I removed the small bracket running from the starter to the pan, the pan will not drop far enough to hit anything below, just that starter corner hanging up for some reason.
I've even watched a couple of 59ab tear downs on youtube, and can't see what the hell it could be hanging up on, lol.
 
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Doesn't the crankshaft on an 59AB have to be
rotated to the correct position to ease the removal of the oil pan?
Otherwise, pan won't "clear" the crank.
 
19Fordy said:
Doesn't the crankshaft on an 59AB have to be
rotated to the correct position to ease the removal of the oil pan?
Otherwise, pan won't "clear" the crank.
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I have rotated the engine a bit and it didn't make a difference, I would think that would come more into play after the pan releases from the block, I slid a putty knife around the hung up area, I can barely get it in but don't want to horse around and bend the pan, so haven't pryed on it. The pan has dropped away everywhere else.
 
one bolt on the top, flat area above the starter, near the back almost to the transmission, got that too? and starter is out?
 
cas3 said:
one bolt on the top, flat area above the starter, near the back almost to the transmission, got that too? and starter is out?
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Yes, they are out, I've stuck a mirror up there and looked around for the obvious, even though that doesn't mean the problems not obvious,:p It's coming off one way or the other in the morning, lol.
 
Here's some engine removal info. from a manual.
 

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Drum roll please.

The bolt at the very back that I was told to look for a couple of times, was still in, lol, walked out this morning, didn't even have to get under the car just looked under the hood in the back and there it was, all that mirror work from under the car for nothing. Unbolted the last bolt and the pan fell to the floor without even getting under the car.
I have both tires off the car, and the engine raised about an inch, I unhooked the draglink from the pitman arm, and the car has duel exhaust so no cross over pipe, not to bad if you take all the bolts out, hahaha.

Thanks for the help and suggestions, actually taking all the bolts out was on the money!
 
glad you won the battle. when taking a pan off in the car, i like to leave a bolt at all 4 corners screwed out quite a bit until you can feel that the whole pan is loose, then remove the last ones so you are in control of when its commin down. now for going back in, get 4 4" bolts and cut the heads off. one on each corner will send it up straight and keep the gasket in place
 
cas3 said:
glad you won the battle. when taking a pan off in the car, i like to leave a bolt at all 4 corners screwed out quite a bit until you can feel that the whole pan is loose, then remove the last ones so you are in control of when its commin down. now for going back in, get 4 4" bolts and cut the heads off. one on each corner will send it up straight and keep the gasket in place
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Will do, on the guide studs.
The pan had about a half inch of thick sludge in the very bottom sump area, the pick up looks pretty good, I will still remove and clean the pick up, I have already removed and cleaned the oil filter canister and oil lines and reinstalled.

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I bought a one-piece Fel-Pro gasket for the oil pan on my '67 Corvette when I replaced the oil pump a couple of years ago. It came with 4 plastic studs with slotted heads with springy tabs on them. You screw them into the four corners of the pan mounting surface on the block and then just push the pan on over them. The tabs allow the pan to be pushed up and when the pan goes over them, they snap out and hold the pan in place. Then all you have to do is put in the rest of the pan bolts and remove the plastic studs with a screwdriver and put in the four remaining bolts. Why am I offering the "Small Block Chevy" tech on "The Ford Barn"? Both of the engine use 5/16 coarse pan bolts. I have used the plastic studs from the SBC Fel-Pro kit on the last two 8BA's I have done and they make installing the pan a breeze. I don't know why they don't supply them with all of their gasket sets.
 
tubman said:
I bought a one-piece Fel-Pro gasket for the oil pan on my '67 Corvette when I replaced the oil pump a couple of years ago. It came with 4 plastic studs with slotted heads with springy tabs on them. You screw them into the four corners of the pan mounting surface on the block and then just push the pan on over them. The tabs allow the pan to be pushed up and when the pan goes over them, they snap out and hold the pan in place. Then all you have to do is put in the rest of the pan bolts and remove the plastic studs with a screwdriver and put in the four remaining bolts. Why am I offering the "Small Block Chevy" tech on "The Ford Barn"? Both of the engine use 5/16 coarse pan bolts. I have used the plastic studs from the SBC Fel-Pro kit on the last two 8BA's I have done and they make installing the pan a breeze. I don't know why they don't supply them with all of their gasket sets.
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I will look for some, sounds like a great idea.
 
One more question, the front seal on the pan appears to be squeezed between a second riveted on piece, what is the removal process for the forward rope seal?
 
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