NOS 21" rim??

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wrndln

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I bought the 21" rim shown in the attached photo at a swap meet recently. It looks like it is NOS to me. It has a heavy brown paper around the center recessed part of the rim (not a rubber rim liner). There is no pitting and the rim looks to never have been used. Has anyone seen a rim that has the brown paper on it and could tell whether it is NOS or not. I would like to know if this is NOS, just for informational purposes as I am not trying to sell it.

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can you , for us idiots (me) when abbreviating , remind a fool what the the heck "NOS" is and any others (in the know) why abbreviate ?
you've got the keys right there under your fingers and plenty of space to type them.
NOS ?
WTF !
 
NOS = new old stock. In other words, original FORD parts, not reproduction.

I also bought a 21" wheel just like this at Iola. It still has the original brown cardboard rim liner. Mine is slightly used. It was probably mounted as a spare for almost all of it's life.
 
'29wagon said:
can you , for us idiots (me) when abbreviating , remind a fool what the the heck "NOS" is and any others (in the know) why abbreviate ?
you've got the keys right there under your fingers and plenty of space to type them.
NOS ?
WTF !
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Do you spell out radar, scuba, dmv, how about cpu and cad drawings!
"You've got the keys right there under your fingers and plenty of space to type them."

Hang in there there are not many as they relate to the Model A. AR is one, NORS in another. (AR, "A" part number revised, BR would be?, NORS new old reproduction stock)
 
thank you,
as far as i can tell that wheel looks great and i'd use it.
I've got about fourteen wheels and all of them are pitted a slightly as the better and the worst, well lets just say they need work.
I would doubt that is an original ford part for the use of card board , it just looks too new. that and the red primer showing through from it rolling around the floor of some guys garage. nun the less . put a tube and tire on it and go.

if i'm wrong, good, i'll learn something.
 
It is nice, but it is used, you can see in the picture where the tube was caught under the bead of the tire near the valve stem hole. The tube also probably had a metal valve stem because there are 2 marks on the rim liner from the bridge washer.
 
I have seen quite a few original 21" rims with some of all of the original cardboard, or fiberboard, rim strip still there. I think the rubber rim liner was a later innovation to protect the tube from the rougher rim area where the spokes were welded. This dropped rim area was where the deepest rim pitting also occurred since the moisture accumulated there, and the metal can be thin enough to weaken the wheel to the point of spoke weld failure (happened to one of my 28 early wheels).
 
If you not going to sell it who cares if a nos or nors, its a nice straight rim and no pits it is a winner, looks great, once i got a 55 Packard in the woods in the trunk was two silver tone tires wrapped in paper never used it is amazing to see something old that has never been used, great find if you hate the rim now, (since its been run) i will take it off your hands lol (laughing out loud)
 
Mine have also the same rim liners, and still soft and pliable after 79 years.

Unrestored Original 1931 Coupe. Joop
 
'29wagon said:
can you , for us idiots (me) when abbreviating , remind a fool what the the heck "NOS" is and any others (in the know) why abbreviate ?
you've got the keys right there under your fingers and plenty of space to type them.
NOS ?
WTF !
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Don't forget about FORD,either. :)
 
I have a NOS 19" wheel and it has a puddle of paint inside the hubcap area. it also has runs coming down from the valve stem hole because it is easy to tell it was hung from the valve stem hole and then dipped. I would estimate 6 to 8 runs coming off of spokes toward the floor. valve stem at the top.
One of these days I will figure out how to post pictures, sorry,
Ken
 
Mike V. Florida said:
.... NORS new old reproduction stock)
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Back in the early 60's (before there was much reproducing going on) my dad and fellow hobbyist called N.O.R.S. New Old Replacement Stock meaning something that Western Auto, Sears Roebuck, J.C. Whitney, etc. sold in their stores or mail order as a replacement. Items of this nature might be points, condensors, exhaust manifolds, water pumps, radiators, brake parts, etc. that looked very similar to what the O.E.M. (Original Equipment Manufacturer) made. Many were parts they were happy to get to make their Model A's usable however they would not pay as much for these items because it was not authentic looking enough.

Dad & I were just talking that "Reproduction parts" really did not start becoming popular until the mid 1960s when people like Tommy Trailer (Specialized Auto Parts), the Snyders, Arthur Howell, and others started actually making parts. Dad was friends with Tommy and I know that MANY pieces (some NOS, some MINT, and some defective!!) were sent to Argentina and 'reverse-engineered' to supposedly be better than the N.O.R.S. stuff that was available. In retrospect, it was absolute junk but like my Dad said, at the time they were tickled to get it. During that time, there were several sources in Houston to get NOS parts, but a family man on a tight budget did not always see the value in it and would but the cheaper "Repo" stuff. Growing up in the Model A hobby, I always heard the term 'repo' used until the last decade or so when people started calling it "repro" now. Make sense there 29WAGON?? ;)

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