Newbie Needs Help with Brakes

mstover

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When I depress my brake pedal, it doesn't return. I have to manually pull the pedal back up to its original position. I don't believe that its a spring issue (yes, it has one) but feels like metal-to-metal friction from somewhere. I just bought this car and it had been sitting in a garage without running for about 3 to 4 years. I suspect that I'll need to inspect of all of the brakes but wondered if anyone might be able to direct me to the most likely place to start.

I appreciate the help!
- Mike
 
There are "springs" on the brake rods which are supposed to return the pedal. Could be a lubriction problem with the cross shaft that the pedal operates? There is an accessory spring that the vendors sell that hooks to the brake pedal to return it if all else fails. Others will chime in I'm sure.
Paul in CT
 
There is a very good chance the metal-to metal feel you are getting is the pedal hanging up on the floorboard.There are a lot of points that will hang up on the A's.Clevis's,clevis pins,stoplight switch,with an A you pretty much have to inspect and free up every part in the braking system.The cross shaft bushings could be hung up,but those are usually loose,not too tight.The shoe springs are supposed to bring the pedal back,and the brake rod anti-rattlers are too.If somebody installed the anti-rattlers on the wrong side of the upset,or nub,they will try to hold the pedal down.Worn and dry pedal bushings will hang up too.I would probably unhook the rod from the pedal at the cross shaft and see if it is free.It should just flop around with no hangups.If somebody has installed the band-aid spring on the pedal it might try to stay up.That would be a start.
 
The entire spring system, from the shoe springs to the anti rattle springs on the rods act in unison to return the brakes. Either your springs are broken, missing, in backwards, bad repro return springs that do not fit, or there is friction on the wear points. Probably it is a combination of several or all of the above. Wear points to check are the cross shaft bearings, which get gummed or rusty, all clevis pins can be rusty or gummed up with dry grease and dirt, and the pedal shaft could be worn excessively, or gummed up. Internally, the wedges, cams and shafts could be gummed up. The easy accessible things are the clevises, cross shaft, pedal shaft and anti rattle springs. I'd start there by cleaning all moving joints and oiling them, as well as replacing the anti rattle springs in the correct direction ( facing away from the cross shaft) with good ones that fit properly. Many repro springs are junk and do not fit the upset on the rods. Brattons makes the flat style ( pre 31) that fits. Some other vendors sell Brattons springs too so you can ask them if you prefer another dealer. The 31 coiled springs generally work better, but I have seen repros of those that do not fit as well, so buyer beware. As you will discover, there is an after market return spring that is commonly used in this situation as a quick fix, but be aware that if your brakes are done correctly, the pedal returns on its own quite nicely. What Keith says about the floorboards is common too.
 
No short cuts here- start with purchasing Les Andrews model a repair manuals and get familair with the system-good luck
 
What brum1 said. Great advice on here but reading the books also helps a lot. BTW, there are lots of Model A people in Ohio - join a club if your haven't already done so - you should have no trouble finding several A wrench turners near by who can help you. Good luck - please let us know what you find.
 
Sounds like the brake rods need adjusting. When the rods are loose the pedal will not return. As mentioned above the Les Andrews manual will get you up to speed but I would definately recommend a thorough inspection and lubrication before any adjustments.
 
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