New Gas,,,Problem's !!!

our modern day in the tank fuel pump failures have skyrocketed. this crap actually eats the pump bodys up. more so in a car thats been sitting a period
 


Hi Guy's



Tired to do a quick cleaning of the jet's,,,,Put the carb back on & it didn't run much better...So when I get time it's take it back off & start over


Not to worry as It's just the crap gas as Tom said & Richard your right too.....There is no Good gas anymore in So. Cal. The web site that tell's you where the Pure Gas is show's station way up almost to "Oregon" !!!!


I hear the EPA is pushing for a 15% mix up from the 10 % we have now !...Thank's guy's for all the good ideas about this problem...



Greg out West,,
 
With our nation's cornfields, dring up and not producing corn, watch for fuel prices to skyrocket, along with all food prices.
MIKE :)
 
Here we go again...

I've been posting this for years (most recently in June of this year), and I've heard from "A' owners of all ages who agree.

Take it or leave it, believe it or not... it works.

(Of course, you need a clean, functioning carb to begin with, so the OP may want to blow out ALL passages with compressed air.)

Here's a (slightly updated) repeat of a post of mine from an old "Do A's tolerate Ethanol..." thread. I still swear by it. MMO and Star Tron are two of my six steps to coping with ethanol:

"In prior threads here and on the old Barn I shared my experiences with creeping neoprene goo after E-5 appeared in New England. I'm not going to cover old ground; we've all heard about how the fuel separates, evaporates, turns to corn syrup, dissolves neoprene, etc., etc.

Cutting to the chase, the following formula has given me four (SEVEN as of 2011!) consecutive years of driving without a single fuel-related problem... E-5, E-10, 87, 89, 91 Octane, whatever:

1) HARD Neoprene gauge float, NOT CORK.
2) CORK gauge gaskets, NOT NEOPRENE.
3) MMO added to gas, per manufacturer's instructions.
4) Star Brite "Star Tron" (the blue stuff) added to gas, also per
manufacturer's instructions.
5) Run carb dry at the end of each day.
6) The on-board computer (driver) needs to adjust the spark and
GAV "to taste." (The car's taste, that is.)

There, I said it; take it or leave it, it works for me.

Whether it's a day, a week, or a month between starts, the "A" starts first time, every time. (As do my lawn mowers and snow blower, on the same fuel diet, no matter how long the fuel sits.)"
 
Ethanol has been proven to be absolute junk. The consumer doesn't want it for all of the reasons stated on here. if it wasn't susidized with our tax money to the tune of 50 cents a gallon, and the true price of this crap was displayed at the pump, do you think ANYBODY would buy it? Absolutely not. BUT your gov-mint keeps it a dime cheaper than real gasoline so that people will buy the stuff. If they were smart enough to realize that with the decreased MPG you are getting, it is costing you a lot more than the 'savings' of ten cents per gallon BUT with the dumbing down of this once great country most people are too stupid to understand it all.

AND now that corn is hitting $8 per bushel and going to go higher (some farm anaylsts are calling $10/bushel this fall), don't you think that 'Hey, Ethanol HAS to be more expensive to make now. Hmmm,,,, price is still below real gasoline what gives??':mad::mad: Not more than a year ago it was stated by the Farm Bureau that Ethanol can not be produced competitively with corn over $3.65 per bushel. Funny how they are quiet about it all now, isn't it? Makes you wonder how they do it today:p
 
Duffy1 said:
FL&WVMIKE ;

I keep my tank full at all times to minimize rusting . I also drive my car two or three times a week .I also shut off the gas going to the carburator when I stop . I use to shut of the gas and run it until it died but I stop doing that as it caused the engine ( as it was taking its last breath )to put more stress on the motor mounts than I thought was healthy .
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Duffy1 ...................
We are all in a catch-22. We leave our tanks full, to not have rust, but when it sits over the winter, there is that much more crap, to settle to the bottom. You, driving it often, keeps it stired up.
I had a "Gas-Man" to tell me to put some new gas in a glass jar, with a small hole punched in the lid. He said, just put it on the shelf and look at it in one month, at two months and at three months. I didn't do it. I wish I had. He says, if you do, you will see what hits your carburetor and valves first, when you start it up, again.
The modern cars have a sealed system and don't have this problem.
MIKE :)
 
Jeff, I have had a favorable opinion to alternative fuel for many years. Not for the "real world" application but for the idea of something different (as needed). Corn is not the best solution but it isn't a bad one. At some point real crude will be come scarce. Not gone but at the level of consumption needed. Sugar beets??? Shell has made ties brazil for sugar cane fuel. Diesel? (and to think Diesel was always cheaper then regular, why did that change?) I believe ford people will find a work around. If it's just a gasket problem, then gaskets will need to be made of a different material. If it's something else, well I believe we will find a work around.

It isn't going away, if anything it'll get worse. Every electric car, to me, means less usage and more availability of the good stuff. But with that comes higher cost due to less demand (101 eco, if that is even a thought today).

Not to mention the slighted perception of using it. It's the "my farts don't think" philosophy. That can be (is) apparent today. Which is funny as I have cut my eco-footprint well under half the people I meet day to day.

With all that said... I buy non-ethanol fuel and my cars run better (day to day) then they ever did.
 
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I think it was last year when it got to where we couldn't get real gas here where I live. I started adding Stabil and it seemed to be working for a while. I let my roadster sit for a few weeks and the problems started. The A cranked right up but was skipping on two cylinders. It was about to drive me up the wall. I ran marvel through the vacume line while it was running and after it really warmed up it started hitting on all four I added some marvel top the crank case. I added some fresh corn 89 octane and a measured amount of marine Stabil and everything seemed cured. The next day when I cranked it up it was running ruff, I had to open the gav quite a bit and it still skipped for about five minutes or more until the intake got hot. It would finally smooth out and quit skipping but the quick throttle response and power was not the same. I was about ready to give up the hobby and Brother Jerry told me about an Exxon station in Jackson Al. that sold ethanol free gas. It was a sixty mile round trip for me but worth it. We recently got a station here in Tville that sells real gas. I am really glad to no longer have to haul and use those new style gas cans with the new fangled spouts, they seem to be all that we can get now. Thank goodness we can drive up to a local station now and pump the gas right in to the tank. I hope it lasts. The corn fuel is unstable and I don't think that anything will work if the car isn't pretty much run every day. Even then it won't have the same power and you will have to run richer and use more retard to keep the manifold hot. Kinda like having to run kerosene, but worse.

I hear that there is a shortage of corn. I think the shortage of corn is partly caused by forcing it to be used in the gas!!! Maybe they will rethink things and quit wasting the corn. I'm not sure who is to blame. I remember Tom Wesenberg complaining about it in Mn. over four years ago, so the present administration didn't start it. It has just got more WIDESPREAD !
 
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