new engine seized, from sitting***FIXED***
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J and M Machine
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
I have never had the need to try this and don't know if it works but you've tried everything else might as well try this. At least you can get your money back if it doesn't work.!
http://www.seized-engine.com/
I have never had the need to try this and don't know if it works but you've tried everything else might as well try this. At least you can get your money back if it doesn't work.!
http://www.seized-engine.com/
Ed in Maine
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
I had the exact same situation, new engine and it sat in my garage for 10 years before I was ready to start it. I did use the 12 V battery out of my modern car. I put the 12 battery on the floor of the passenger side and used jumper cables direct to the starter. I used the standard 6 V battery to run the ignition. Then I hooked the front bumper of the car to my tractor (very slow speed, car transmission in high gear). For first trial, I took out the plugs just to get things turning easier. Then with the car being towed, I let out the clutch very slowly until I could hear the clutch just start to take up, and then I hit the starter switch. That jolt from the starter and the torque provided by towing the car was enough to start spinning the engine. I was one happy guy when I saw that fan start turning. Then let the clutch out all the way. I towed the car about a mile. I then installed the spark plugs and repeated the procedure. The car started in about 200 feet of towing. DON'T FORGET TO TORQUE THE HEAD AFTER FIVE MINUTES OF RUNNING. I didn't and screwed up the head gasket. Torque the head often until there is no change in torque. I was surprised to find that the car needed 12V and about 1 1/2 hour of running time before it would start on 6 V. Then one day, the engine started on 6V just fine. Good luck, Ed
I had the exact same situation, new engine and it sat in my garage for 10 years before I was ready to start it. I did use the 12 V battery out of my modern car. I put the 12 battery on the floor of the passenger side and used jumper cables direct to the starter. I used the standard 6 V battery to run the ignition. Then I hooked the front bumper of the car to my tractor (very slow speed, car transmission in high gear). For first trial, I took out the plugs just to get things turning easier. Then with the car being towed, I let out the clutch very slowly until I could hear the clutch just start to take up, and then I hit the starter switch. That jolt from the starter and the torque provided by towing the car was enough to start spinning the engine. I was one happy guy when I saw that fan start turning. Then let the clutch out all the way. I towed the car about a mile. I then installed the spark plugs and repeated the procedure. The car started in about 200 feet of towing. DON'T FORGET TO TORQUE THE HEAD AFTER FIVE MINUTES OF RUNNING. I didn't and screwed up the head gasket. Torque the head often until there is no change in torque. I was surprised to find that the car needed 12V and about 1 1/2 hour of running time before it would start on 6 V. Then one day, the engine started on 6V just fine. Good luck, Ed
john in illinois
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
A friend just had a rebuilt engine that would not turn over. Pulled it in gear and used a breaker bar and every thing that you could think of to free it up. It turned out that a bolt in the flywheel was too long and locked up on the rear main.
This is a long shot but might be worth checking.
Good luck,John
A friend just had a rebuilt engine that would not turn over. Pulled it in gear and used a breaker bar and every thing that you could think of to free it up. It turned out that a bolt in the flywheel was too long and locked up on the rear main.
This is a long shot but might be worth checking.
Good luck,John
Purdy Swoft
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
Automatic transmission fluid or marvel mystery oil by themself is too thick in my opinion to ever unstick a tightly frozen up engine. You may try pouring some kerosene or acetone through the plug holes on top of the automatic transmission fluid that you have already added. The problem may be that you can't stir and mix the fluids unless you remove the head. The valves and lifters will also need attention. I have never seen a rusted stuck engine that some of the valves were not also stuck. If the valve is stuck in the closed position, that in itself will lock up the engine. If you don't want to spend the money for a gallon of Kroil you could try some Liquid Wrench or PB blaster in an aerosol on the valves.
Automatic transmission fluid or marvel mystery oil by themself is too thick in my opinion to ever unstick a tightly frozen up engine. You may try pouring some kerosene or acetone through the plug holes on top of the automatic transmission fluid that you have already added. The problem may be that you can't stir and mix the fluids unless you remove the head. The valves and lifters will also need attention. I have never seen a rusted stuck engine that some of the valves were not also stuck. If the valve is stuck in the closed position, that in itself will lock up the engine. If you don't want to spend the money for a gallon of Kroil you could try some Liquid Wrench or PB blaster in an aerosol on the valves.
d.j. moordigian
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
barron,
I did an engine for a friend that sat 19 years on the engine stand in his DRY shop.
Couldn't turn it over with 2 6' bars on each end....and it was all lubed up. I know
you don't want to here this. Take it apart, fix it, before you break or screw it up!
Do it right, not twice
Dudley
barron,
I did an engine for a friend that sat 19 years on the engine stand in his DRY shop.
Couldn't turn it over with 2 6' bars on each end....and it was all lubed up. I know
you don't want to here this. Take it apart, fix it, before you break or screw it up!
Do it right, not twice
Dudley
Milton
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
barron,
Sad to say but, I'm in agreement with d.j.
While you disassemble the engine continuously try to spin it. My money is on the rings so once the head is off try carefully tapping a 3 1/2" dowel with a hammer on top of the pistons.
barron,
Sad to say but, I'm in agreement with d.j.
While you disassemble the engine continuously try to spin it. My money is on the rings so once the head is off try carefully tapping a 3 1/2" dowel with a hammer on top of the pistons.
Ok I'm the idiot.... the inside starter bolt was a tiny bit to long, i locked the flywheel so well that I dragged the car with all the success of a comedy show, pulled the starter, spun easy.... bolt the starter back in, prison style lock down.... replaced the inside bolt, now to get it fired off.... filled motor with water and of course some is dripping out the head gasket and water pump (nos 3 bolt) and lastly the clutch disc is stuck
MCHinson
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Glad you got the engine free. If the clutch is rusted to the flywheel the technical tip I found on the MAFCA website years ago worked for me.
Jack up the rear end. Put the rear on jack stands. Start the car in third gear. Let it run for a couple of minutes at 20 mph or so. Depress and hold the clutch pedal in. Stomp on the brake pedal. That should break it free.
Jack up the rear end. Put the rear on jack stands. Start the car in third gear. Let it run for a couple of minutes at 20 mph or so. Depress and hold the clutch pedal in. Stomp on the brake pedal. That should break it free.
Purdy Swoft
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Re: new engine seized, from sitting
Kinda strange, You pulled the starter, engine wouldn't turn, now it was the starter bolt locking the engine and now it spins freely.
Kinda strange, You pulled the starter, engine wouldn't turn, now it was the starter bolt locking the engine and now it spins freely.