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I live in CT and purchased a model a from someone in CT. Car was not registered and I got a bill of sale. I'll selling the car without me registering it. In order to register in CT a new buyer needs a bill of sale, normal registration form, proof of insurance, motor vehicle ownership affidavit and DMV to verify serial number. No problem. The gentleman that wants to buy it and flip it to a New York or New Jersey owner tells me I need to register the car in my name in CT before he would purchase it. If not New York or New Jersey will not register the car. In confused. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
1929 Ford Model a Roadster. 11.3 miles since professional restoration. A gem with underneath like no other. One of a kind - show or drive.
 
NYS requires proof of insurance and lacking title or other prior proof of ownership, and handwritten bill of sale. also nys has a form to be signed by seller "sale or gift of motor vehicle" Don't know the the dmv form # but it think you can download it. They will also ask for a pencil etching of the engine s/n.
 
I'm thinking this; How can a government entity require that a vehicle be registered for purpose of conveyance? Legal ownership is legal ownership, period. it's all about $$$$$.

What about a dealer who sells a new vehicle that's never been registered?? Is he/she required to register it before selling it to you?

What about title? At some place in time, every vehicle was not titled.

Within the realm of 'title' is "certificate of origin". I suggest that if one who legally owns an 85 year old vehicle who has taken it apart and put it back together partially or wholly is it's original owner, and should be eligible to provide a certificate of origin for that vehicle, because he/she became the original owner upon re-assembly.

It would be interesting to bring this issue before a state legislative committee.
 
NYS DMV is surprisingly straightforward. To sell a car to a NY buyer, the MV 82 and bill of sale are required, and if a NYS car, the back of the old registration must be signed over to the new owner. To REGISTER it in NYS he will need proof of insurance too. Check out nysdmv.gov for full disclosure of procedures to register it in NY. I think the buyer is requiring something he does not need, but it will provide a paper trail of government registration instead of him having to establish it. Do you have an old registration or anything proving it was once registered? How about a windshield sticker or license plate for starters? NYS is NOT a title state for cars of, earlier than 1973 or so.
 
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I live in CT and purchased a model a from someone in CT. Car was not registered and I got a bill of sale. I'll selling the car without me registering it. In order to register in CT a new buyer needs a bill of sale, normal registration form, proof of insurance, motor vehicle ownership affidavit and DMV to verify serial number. No problem. The gentleman that wants to buy it and flip it to a New York or New Jersey owner tells me I need to register the car in my name in CT before he would purchase it. If not New York or New Jersey will not register the car. In confused. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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for NJ it would be about the only way -certinaly the easiest
 
pretty much impossible to title in NJ with just a bill of sale-have the buyer go through NY as previously explained and a new transferable registration will be provided by NY as long as he does what was told.
There is no reason for you to go through the paper trail in your name in CT...........

I would find another buyer if he balks...........
 
He will have to take bill of sale, ins card, maybe an etching of the engine # and MONEY and I'm sure he will be able to register it WITHOUT you jumping thru hoops. OR go ahead and reg in CT and let him reimburse you for taxes, reg, vin verification, etc. JMO
Paul in CT Does he live in CT??
 
Thanks for replies. Sorting through information supplied. I am selling this car at a wholesale price and would like to provide pictures and other information to the gentleman that might be interested. Please keep answers coming. Thanks
 
CarlG said:
Go for it!:)
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I certainly would if it affected me. (Have done it several times in the past on other issues)
However I do not live in CT, NY, or NJ. I was simply attempting to be helpful with a thought process that may be utilized in making it happen for someone grinding away in the frustrating cruelty of bureaucracy. Your encouragement is sincerely appreciated.
 
In most states it is now illegal to hold an open title.

Exceptions for licensed car dealers.

Sure makes flipping a lot tougher.
 
When I bought my Model A, the title (CA Pink) was in the previous owner's name, not the guy I bought it from. He had only "owned" it for a couple of weeks. Didn't have a problem when I obtained new Alaska title/registration other than the lightning of the wallet.

When I bought my '93 Explorer, the title was only 2 days old. Guy I bought it from had just flipped it.
 
I ran into this in Massachusetts. In Mass there were no titles before 1973 (or there about). can you simply apply for a title with out registering it? Be worth the effort to do it in state first. Sell it with Bill of sale and transfer title when it comes in.
 
Perhaps I am just cynical, but who would pay the money to "professionally restore" a Model A without proper paperwork on the car? No offense, but it smells fishy to me.
 
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