My '36 5w Project-info needed

myfirst36

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Hello to all the FordBarn members!

I'm new here and was told to come venture over to this forum for any info I may need. I recently acquired a 1936 Ford 5w Coupe. It's been a work in progress since 1975 and came out of ohio/indiana area. Unfortunately some hack got his hands on it a long time ago and we're trying to reverse the damage. We're new to the hobby of "old cars" and this '36 is quite foreign to us so we could definately use any advice, info, etc.

The frame is very solid so there isnt much work needed there. Right now there is a late 50's Chevy rear in it. It currnetly has the stock wishbone set-up but we're thinking about splitting the wishbones. The car has no engine or trans and we really haven't thought of what to do with that yet.

As for the body; its pretty solid. There was some minor rust on the quarter panels back in the day but someone decided to grind it down, fill it with lead and add about 20 pounds of bondo to the car. why? I don't know. We need to replace all quarter panels on the car. Luckily; the doors appear to be solid and the fenders too. We have a set of new running boards that came with the purchase. The car has been braced in the body while there are no floors in it.

The car has no rockers and ansolutely nothing left of the floors. The only bit of the floors that are salvageable are the trunk floors. Unfortunately there isn't much left of the lower body due to poor rust repair int he 70's and we have nothing for floors or rockers to attach to so we are puzzled right now. We don't have the rear portion of the floors yet; just the front floors. We have all of the patch panels from Mac's.

My question is; do we start with fixing the quarter panels and re-creating that "lip" to attach the rockers and floors to or do we start with trying to replace the floors first? My only thought was that we must start with the patch panels since we need to get the rockers, etc in; in order to lay the floors down.

Since there is so much of the lower body that is missing; we are confused as to how it is supposed to be in order to ensure floor srength and proper alignment of everything. Does anyone have any photos of floors and patch panels being put into a '36 5 w? the more detail floor replacement photos; the better. A diagram would be fabulous too.

Once we get the floors in; we can safely remove the body off the frame and decide what we want to do with the engine, trans, and front end.

We don't have a ton of cash so this is going to be a project that will be completed with what money can allow. this is a dream build for us and we are all-for ensuring that its done right...but once again; funds may limit whats useable and cheapest vs. what was original to the car in terms of the small stuff.

We have a pretty solid start; just need some advice and guidance. So PLEASE feel free to reply and add as much advice and knowledge as you''d like. We'd really appreciate it :)

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Congrats on your purchase and good luck on your endeavor!

I would start with the quarter patches (and cowl patches if need be) first and then put in the floors. If you need measurements, I can probably help you with that.
 
I note that you are in New England. I highly recommend that you find time to go to the V-8 Club meet in Saratoga Springs, NY next week. You could study and take some photos of original floors in the '35 and '36s that no doubt will be present ('35s and '36s used the same floors and for that matter most of the floor sheet metal is common to all body styles). For example, you mention rocker panels, but '35-'36s had none per se. There are sills of sorts, but there's not much to them. The bodies were heavily reliant on the frame and roof structure on closed cars such as your coupe to maintain the integrity of the door openings, etc.
 
For me, the key to proper alignment is to get the door posts properly re-attached to the sill plates. 3-way (up/down, back/forth, in/out) measurements from an original car are very helpful. I would align the sill plates, install the floor boards, position/attach the door posts, fit doors and finally align and attach the quarter panels. Not an easy for for a first timer.
 
Paul Bradley ran a batch of `35 and `36 original type floor pans last year after having none available for months. You can check with him to see if there are any left.-704-392-3206


Shadetree
 
If you don't mind, where in New England. I am in eastern CT and have a 36 5 window with solid original floor to study.
Brian
 
Paul Bradley ran a batch of `35 and `36 original type floor pans last year after having none available for months. You can check with him to see if there are any left.-704-392-3206


Shadetree

After waiting years Bradley charged my credit card in January for a set of pans and I have received absolutely nothing in return.

If you can't pick them up in person I wouldn't buy from him.
 
Hello everyone. thanks for the replies. Having a car to measure from would be really helpful. We're perfectly capable of putting the floors and such in the car; we just don't know where everything is supposed to sit since the car came to us the way it sits.

Brian- the car is in the Windham, CT area. :)
 
I'm in Mystic Ct but my 36 is in Florida (Darn it) but, if your close by, I'd be glad to give you some advice. Mine was a complete rust out right thru the frame and the bottom 6 inches of all the sheet metal. Be glad to share my mistakes!

Where are you?
 
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