Model A Quail

[30ccpickup]

I believe I have found an original Model ‘A’ Quail hood ornament. I went on the web to research it and found nothing. I was hoping some Ford Barners could post pictures of their original quails and share their knowledge on what is original and what is not.

 

[glenn in camino]

If it's a 29, it would be VERY different. If it's a 30-31, find someone with a definite repo and compare. They were pot metal so there are not many left.

 

[Gary WA]

The Restorer did an article on them. Someone will dial in I'm sure.

 

[pat in Santa Cruz]

originals have much sharper detail than the repros available now. On the underside of the top cap, look for the STANCO logo in the casting. The patent number is stamped in the stainless steel inner liner of the top cap as well as the words, "other patents pending".

 

[Steve Plucker]

If you have access to The Restorer (TR) and or Model A News (MAN), then here is where you will find an abundance of information on it:

A-18385-AR, B: Radiator cap and ornament (Flying Quail)
“On the Road”: MAN/40/3/9-10 (1993)
“On the Hill”: MAN/48/6/15-16 (2001)
“Quail Radiator Caps”: MAN/49/6/10-13 (2002)
“Ford’s Hoosier Mascot…(History of the Flying Quail)”: TR/4/6/6-13 (1960)
“Schematic Drawing”: TR/14/2/Back Page (1969)
“TIP…Securing Radiator Ornaments”: TR/29/6/16 (1985)*4
“TIP…Holder Bar for 1930-31 Radiator Ornament”: TR/32/2/32-33 (1987)*4
“Ford’s Hoosier Mascot…(History of the Flying Quail, Reprint)”: TR/53/5/8-12 (2009)

 

[mot]

it would have been really easy if you posted a picture
here are a few original quails
the first 2 are 30-31 stancos Stant Manf Co
the next one is a 29 Stanco,this one is missing the base,it screws on
the last two are Jarvis 29 caps
the 30-31s are currently reproduced and they are quite well done,the detail is not as sharp
whereas the 29s are not being reproduced and are really different from the 30-31 and also different from manufacturer to manufacturer
i also find the Jarvis tend to be of an inferior base metal ,and tend to spall
tom

 

[Bruce Adams]

I seem to recall they sell for over $1000 on ebay regularly.
Perhaps someone has better information.

 

[30ccpickup]

The bottom of the quail is stamped "Glendale, Ct-Greenland Co. 4". Any additional information would be appreciated. My book collection is slowly increasing, eventually I hope to be able to collect the back issues of the two magazines. Thanks Paul

 

[HoarseWhisperer]

I believe Greenland is an older repro.

 

[LukeDahlinger]

Sheldon Greenland's old parts company?

 

[mot]

yes greenland is one of the first reproductions
probably from the 70s,they used to sell for $19

 

[Brubaker]

Tom(mot) posted some great quail pics last year(very much appreciated Tom), but I still can't figure out the year of my quail(bird only unfortunately). Looks like '29, but can someone confirm? Thanks. Bruce.

 

[Bob Johnson]

Here is an ad from 1967 for the reproduction quail radiator cap.

Bob

 

[Brubaker]

Tom-Here's a shot of the underneath. Thanks for your help.

 

[mot]

1929 Stanco

 

[Big Al]

Hi,
about a year ago i purchased a motormeter . After i took it home i found it to be nos. It was still in it,s original box and along with the meter, there is a small phamplet dersribing other products the box itself is somewhat brittle due to age. After seeng where someone saw on on ebay for $1000.00 i wonder if the one i have is an original or not. After i get over this flu-like cold i will describe it better.


Big al

 

[Big Al]

Hi,
after reading my post i realized my purchase was not a quail sorry for the confusion

big al

 

[shooter54]

Wow, those are cool.

 

[Joe/Ct]

I am having trouble with my quail cap on my '28 roadster. In order to avoid interference between the cap hinge and the hood panels, I have had to move the radiator forward. When I do this, the panel hinge shaft is out of it's hold-down brackets. Some have recommended that I move the cap hinge to the side, but am unable to do so. Recommendations?

 

[30Tudor]

Not sure I completely understand your problem - a picture would help. Try putting a thin stainless washer/spacer at the radiator end of the hood shaft/rod (on the rod) where the rod enters the front hold-down bracket. The washer sits between the hold-down bracket and the first hood panel hinge and will move the hood panels back. I had to do this modification last weekend because the edge of the hood panels were hitting the tail of my quail. One member in our club uses a slice cut out of stainless steel tubing.