Model A ford Rod X-ING Jig?

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Anyone ever see one of these? I think it is a X-ing jig for a Model A Rod...Not sure....

Any info, including manufacturer would be AWESOME!

Thanks in advance.

Charles
 

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It is a Storm Vulcan X groover. You swung rod against a stop after mounting the rod and releasing the holding spring loaded pin. rotated the groover to do one side and then swung rod back over to opposite side and againrotated the groover handle. Very desireable collector tool. Storm Vulcan of Dallas, Texas also made babbitt pouring molds for the A blocks and V-8s as well as a universal cap, rod, and main cap babbitting mold for many applications.
 
Here is a page from the SV catalog showing the groover
 

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Very cool. Thanks!

I have/had some of those babbit jigs around here somewhere.

The X-ing jig is from a friends estate. Any idea on where would be a good place to list it for sale on their behalf? Fair asking price?

I had a bunch a A stuff a few years ago and listed it here and ebay, but did not get much of it sold...

C.
 
tmodler said:
OK, well, back into the attic with it then...

C.
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I am not sure if that comment was meant sarcastically or not, but I am guessing you were hoping for some interest in someone purchasing it? My perspective is it is a neat and valuable piece for someone who actually needs/wants it, but realistically how many people actually need this? A

Adding to that, if you have it, what does someone do with it? Art is cool if it triggers a conversation however there are many accessories for a Model-A that would fetch much more attention and at a much cheaper cost to the curator IMHO. This is my perception anyway. Good luck with whatever you do with it.
 
tmodler said:
Anyone ever see one of these? I think it is a X-ing jig for a Model A Rod...Not sure....

Any info, including manufacturer would be AWESOME!

Thanks in advance.

Charles
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There is something different about the cam on the left side. All the ones I have seen have a double cam hump, one on each side, to give an in and out on each side.


You put the rod in and the web lays over the adjustment bolt to level the rod, and when one side, a half of x groove is done, you take out the rod and then put the other side in, and full circle the cam lever again.

Unless the jig was dropped and broke off one off the cams, it may not work the way it was original intended as the cam has to move the cutter in and out twice. so it may need some repair from whom ever buys it.

Looking at the pictures again, it looks like someone made a whole new end cap.

Herm.
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C said:
I am not sure if that comment was meant sarcastically or not, but I am guessing you were hoping for some interest in someone purchasing it? My perspective is it is a neat and valuable piece for someone who actually needs/wants it, but realistically how many people actually need this? A

Adding to that, if you have it, what does someone do with it? Art is cool if it triggers a conversation however there are many accessories for a Model-A that would fetch much more attention and at a much cheaper cost to the curator IMHO. This is my perception anyway. Good luck with whatever you do with it.
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No sarcasm meant, I took it that no one was interested, thus I will keep it. No harm for me either way, I just thought it might be something someone wanted.

I will put it back in the attic with the other things that I think are too good to throw away, but that no one wants (3Z Fordson Main bearing Jig, Ford Model A (The first one) power take off, Ford Model N,R,S PTO, etc).

Sorry if it sounded sarcastic, not my intention.

C.
 
Kohnke Rebabbitting said:
There is something different about the cam on the left side. All the ones I have seen have a double cam hump, one on each side, to give an in and out on each side.


You put the rod in and the web lays over the adjustment bolt to level the rod, and when one side, a half of x groove is done, you take out the rod and then put the other side in, and full circle the cam lever again.

Unless the jig was dropped and broke off one off the cams, it may not work the way it was original intended as the cam has to move the cutter in and out twice. so it may need some repair from whom ever buys it.

Looking at the pictures again, it looks like someone made a whole new end cap.

Herm.
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INTERESTING! It Does have 2 cams on it, Photo 1033 shows it in the engaged position on the upper stroke of the cam, the rod points straight out in the middle positiotn, and then can be rotated 90 degrees down to the second position.

I will take a clear photo of that end.

C.
 
tmodler said:
INTERESTING! It Does have 2 cams on it, Photo 1033 shows it in the engaged position on the upper stroke of the cam, the rod points straight out in the middle positiotn, and then can be rotated 90 degrees down to the second position.

I will take a clear photo of that end.

C.
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Well good then, the cam must be turned then, as the lever when at rest should be straight up, or straight down as the the shaft cutter will be lined up with rods oil hole so recesses in the hole, and not dig into the babbitt when you load the rod.

Herm.
 
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Apologies to all who PM'd me. I did not have them set up right to email me and I did not notice the notifications link up on the to right.

All PMs replied to.

I do not have an asking price at this point, I am not an A expert be any means and I am not yet sure what the value of this is. I am gonna go talk with an A buddy this week, and he may be able to help.

Thanks to all.

Charles
 
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