Mating an 8ba with a 1939 trans help

[19Fordy]

Here's more interesting info. about this topic.
https://www.google.com/search?q=wil...ome..69i57.19479j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[joshhirst13]

Here’s the 39 trans

 

[Tinker]

"Darn", "heck" & "poo" (on steroids) ought to work in most situations! DD

Sorry I should have said great F%ckin' post. hahaha. Just trying to be a bit family friendly


I stand by saying it's a heck of a great post. Very nice of you and informative. Too often we are not sharing openly.

 

[V8COOPMAN]

I’m having trouble uploading photos.

Here are Josh's pictures! DD

1937-'39 Top Loader

1937-'39 Top Loader

Pair of CAST IRON "8BA" TRUCK 1/2 BELLS & Starter Plate

Big Truck "Hog's Head"

1940-'48 Side Loader

1940-'48 Side Loader

1940-'48 Side Loader

1946 Ford Side Loader via Serial #

1946-'48 Ford Flywheel

1946-'48 Ford Flywheel

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[19Fordy]

v8. Thanks for an excellent post plus photos.

 

[joshhirst13]

Thanks Coopman. I really appreciate you posting the pics as well as going through the effort of identifying the components in the pictures & labeling them. So know that the photos have been posted & you can see what I have,
1. Can I use the gears out of the side shifter in my 39 top loader?
2. Can the psi plates I have be reused?
3. Will the bell housings & starter plates I have work with what I have?
4. Can anyone tell from the pictures if my flywheel is ok?
Thanks Fellas

 

[V8COOPMAN]

Thanks Coopman. I really appreciate you posting the pics as well as going through the effort of identifying the components in the pictures & labeling them. So know that the photos have been posted & you can see what I have,
1. Can I use the gears out of the side shifter in my 39 top loader?
2. Can the psi plates I have be reused?
3. Will the bell housings & starter plates I have work with what I have?
4. Can anyone tell from the pictures if my flywheel is ok?
Thanks Fellas

Hey Josh....You're welcome on the pics.

1....You CAN use the gears from the side shift in the '39 box. The gears are
identical in design, but.....swap as a COMPLETE SET.

2....If you mean 'PRESSURE Plates', you can't tell if they're any good by looking. They're
reasonable enough, and it's something you don't want to think about
pulling an engine out to do over. Contact Mac VanPelt or Ft. Wayne
Clutch.

3....Yes, but the STARTER Plates MUST be a match for the individual bell that
you use.

4....You can NOT use that flywheel on an 8BA. It looks awful, anyway! Your
flywheel is a 1948 and earlier wheel. You can tell because the LATE (8BA) wheel has the six clutch bolt holes drilled ALL the way through the wheel. Your holes are "blind"....NOT drilled all the way thru. Also, your ring gear appears to be the WIDE (EARLY) one. Good, used 8BA flywheels are available. I'd be willing to bet someone on the 'Barn here might have one to donate for postage, or you can advertise for one in the "WANTED" section here. But NOTE the difference in height between the early and 8BA wheels. Starter will NOT line-up properly with wrong wheel.....whew! DD

EARLY (WIDE) Ring Gear on LEFT

EARLY On LEFT

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[19Fordy]

It's really great when a person posts a reply that gives much needed detailed
tech info. on parts needed to answer a question like V8 (and others ) do. Thanks.

 

[joshhirst13]

Hey Josh....You're welcome on the pics.

1....You CAN use the gears from the side shift in the '39 box. The gears are
identical in design, but.....swap as a COMPLETE SET.

2....If you mean 'PRESSURE Plates', you can't tell if they're any good by looking. They're
reasonable enough, and it's something you don't want to think about
pulling an engine out to do over. Contact Mac VanPelt or Ft. Wayne
Clutch.

3....Yes, but the STARTER Plates MUST be a match for the individual bell that
you use.

4....You can NOT use that flywheel on an 8BA. It looks awful, anyway! Your
flywheel is a 1948 and earlier wheel. You can tell because the LATE (8BA) wheel has the six clutch bolt holes drilled ALL the way through the wheel. Your holes are "blind"....NOT drilled all the way thru. Also, your ring gear appears to be the WIDE (EARLY) one. Good, used 8BA flywheels are available. I'd be willing to bet someone on the 'Barn here might have one to donate for postage, or you can advertise for one in the "WANTED" section here. But NOTE the difference in height between the early and 8BA wheels. Starter will NOT line-up properly with wrong wheel.....whew! DD

EARLY (WIDE) Ring Gear on LEFT

EARLY On LEFT

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I have another flywheel that is attached to a crank still. Also the flywheel from the previous pictures actually has holes that go all the way through. Maybe neither will still work. I try to submit the photos. Let me know what you guys think.
Thanks
Josh

 

[joshhirst13]

Here’s some pics

 

[joshhirst13]

Here’s the flywheel that was posted previously showing that the jokes go all the way through. Maybe I’m not understanding what you meant by the holes.

 

[joshhirst13]

Oh. I figured out the photo posting. My images where too large so I had to make the files smaller to post. Thanks again for all of your help fellas. I really appreciate it.

 

[V8COOPMAN]

hey josh....you're welcome on the pics.

3....

4.... You can tell because the late (8ba) wheel has the "six clutch bolt holes" drilled all the way through the wheel. Dd


early on left

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Josh....As you can see in #4 ABOVE, I was referring to the OUTER six, THREADED bolt holes for securing the pressure plate to the flywheel. I WAS NOT referring to the six CENTER holes where the wheel attaches to the crank flange. Notice the REAR side of the flywheels....the side TOWARD the crankshaft. On the REAR side of the 8BA flywheel, those 6 threaded holes are evident. NOT so on the 1948 and earlier flywheel.


YOUR Flywheel...NO Thru-Holes at OUTER Edge

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[joshhirst13]

Oh man. Ughhhhh. I completely misunderstood. Sorry about that. Thanks for explaining. I’m learning a lot. I will create another post to try & find the correct flywheel.
Thanks
Josh.

 

[V8COOPMAN]

Oh man. Ughhhhh. I completely misunderstood. Sorry about that. Thanks for explaining. I’m learning a lot. I will create another post to try & find the correct flywheel.
Thanks
Josh.

Hey Josh....Don't feel badly! I'm completely 'misunderstood' a large majority of the time. One of the main reasons MOST of us are here is in an attempt to "learn a lot". Is this a great place......or what? DD