Making new paint look old??

[J Franklin]

Use alkalid enamel, it will flaten out and oxidize in about a couple of years.

 

[john greco]

Instead of using flattening agent use cornstarch

 

[Seth Swoboda]

Paint it flat black, one coat and let the car sit out side 365 days a year. Won't take long to look old.

 

[petehoovie]

2 ton in Minot, 2 ton complete

 

[petehoovie]

First attempt with the blue box.

 

[signsup]

You'll end up melting your tires.
Most of my paint work has been with flat military green paint. What they called lusterless. I am sure you can work with flatening agents to get that flat, almost chaulky finish. And, if you wnt with a slightly lighter shade by adding some white to the color and painting the top surfaces with the lighter shade and blending it or feathering it down onto the sides, you would get a sun faded appearance IMO. You got nothing to loose, experiment until you are happy with the results. Primer first, play with the paint and lightly sand or scuff up through the top layer until you get to some primer and just play with it.

 

[ronn]

rub kerosene on the glossy finish and it will dull out.......

 

[GB SISSON]

You'll end up melting your tires.
Most of my paint work has been with flat military green paint. What they called lusterless. I am sure you can work with flatening agents to get that flat, almost chaulky finish. And, if you wnt with a slightly lighter shade by adding some white to the color and painting the top surfaces with the lighter shade and blending it or feathering it down onto the sides, you would get a sun faded appearance IMO. You got nothing to loose, experiment until you are happy with the results. Primer first, play with the paint and lightly sand or scuff up through the top layer until you get to some primer and just play with it.

Your method pretty much describes on the trucks that Good OL' Pete enlarged above. Lighter and flatter on the flat surfaces. The part about 'nothing to lose' has always been my mantra in this type of painting. Too shiney? Too dark? Just fog on another layer.

 

[deuce_roadster]

I have painted a lot of cars and to me, fake patina looks just that, fake. Low gloss is easy to achieve with either a flattening agent in the color or a coat of matte luster clear. I have a 33 phaeton with the original top and a repaint from the 40s and I just leave it alone. Pictures in an album.
Good luck.

 

[GB SISSON]

I have painted a lot of cars and to me, fake patina looks just that, fake. Low gloss is easy to achieve with either a flattening agent in the color or a coat of matte luster clear. I have a 33 phaeton with the original top and a repaint from the 40s and I just leave it alone. Pictures in an album.
Good luck.

But Mike, my goal has never been to take a truck with decent matching paint and make it look worse just to have 'patina'. Sure, some have, and I have seen some gawdawful attempts. Sometimes we don't want to spend what it costs today for a GOOD paint job (and prep) but our project is from different vehicles. When I built this truck it started with a utility trailer for sale beside the road in Spokane, Pristine 9' express box with Mercury tailgate, titled and licensed. Couldn't pass it up. Then I needed a truck to put it on so found a Meadow Green '59 f350 stakebed near home. Frame had all the factory drilled holes to mount my new box, but it's the wrong color. Mixed a batch of rustoleum flat white and flat black together. Fold in some Hunter Green and add cornstarch to suit. Test, change,add a bit of yellow. re-test.... I have some pics of it more completed, not perfect, but it looked way better than the metallic light blue.

 

[deuce_roadster]

For sure Gary, there is a big difference between what you describe and someone who wants others to think the car is some barn find. I COMPLETELY understand what you do!
Mike

 

[GB SISSON]

Thank you Mike! Couldn't resist another repaint adventure before I go back to some boring woodwork in the shop This is my current avatar tonner that got the H six and the box, running boards and rears from 'Uncle Oscar'. Oscar was pretty rusty from Western Washington(35 years unde a big leaf maple) and as you can see in the background, my avatar truck was from The arid East Side of the Cascades. (Where they grimace and call us folks 'Coasties). This truck was originally black but had been brush painted by one a them hillbillies over there. The next owner started stripping the paint with a globemaster sanding pad in a drill and fortunately did not advance beyond the passenger door and cowl bottom.

 

[petehoovie]

Thank you Mike! Couldn't resist another repaint adventure before I go back to some boring woodwork in the shop This is my current avatar tonner that got the H six and the box, running boards and rears from 'Uncle Oscar'. Oscar was pretty rusty from Western Washington(35 years unde a big leaf maple) and as you can see in the background, my avatar truck was from The arid East Side of the Cascades. (Where they grimace and call us folks 'Coasties).

 

[ActionYobbo]

The rear fender was yellow

 

[CA Victoria]

Too-Mater (avitar photo) was painted with original color using Nason single stage over black epoxy primer. Sanded through the primer and some areas to metal to get close to original looking paint that was on the cab……these areas where original color was in tact it was left and new paint blended into it. Final touch was to spray a little red oxide primer (rattle can style) to look like owner touch up on some panels. Photos in my album…... This wasn’t a 10k job!

 

[petehoovie]

The rear fender was yellow

 

[GB SISSON]

Yobbo and Vic, excellent work! For this type of work, one needs to forget everything they know about auto body painting and think like a set builder for the upcoming sequel to 'The Grapes of Wrath'. Or maybe 'The Waltons'. anyways.... I think watching John Walton driving his family around in that 1 1/2 ton AA express got me started down this tangled road. God bless him for that.

 

[CA Victoria]

So right-on GB. Pro auto body guys cringe when I tell them how i got to the end finish. I had seen alot of Faux rust and sanding through new finishes, then clear coated that miss the mark. This project was pieced together from an rusty original green truck cab that was a rat condo & the rest of the body came from all over the US, if not painted it would have looked like one of grandma’s old patch work quilts……….

 

[GB SISSON]

So right-on GB. Pro auto body guys cringe when I tell them how i got to the end finish. I had seen alot of Faux rust and sanding through new finishes, then clear coated that miss the mark. This project was pieced together from an rusty original green truck cab that was a rat condo & the rest of the body came from all over the US, if not painted it would have looked like one of grandma’s old patch work quilts……….

Would love to see a little more of that gem. The lighting and setting of your avatar photo create a great scene.

 

[Jack E/NJ]

>>I'd like the roadster to have the same sort of patina. Are there any suggestions?>>
>>The sun! Think I'm gonna buy me a high power UV light>>>


You might also want to consider a few strategically-placed scratches & dents here & there.