installing new timing gear

Frank,

The gear can Really only fit on the cam one way . The dowel pins are offset on the end of the camshaft as are the dowel holes in the gear. You are really just having line up issues and not seeing properly and getting the feel of installing it
With all due respect I think with all the difficulty and posting you've done over x amount of days to the forum on this that maybe this is one task you may have been better off having a qualified model a mechanic handle for you . I've replace them in as short as 20 minutes start to finish before and certainly within and hour or so under Normal circumstances in running cars.
If you are having visual issues getting a gear on and lining up timing marks you are best served getting someone in to replace it and ensure that it is in correctly and the marks are lined up. Not sure if you have someone in your area but if there is someone on the forum close or in your club area that you use them


Larry
 
Frank asked a torque value question and reply #3 answered it. So now he sends a nasty personal message. Don't worry , I'll comply with your request.
 
Patrick L. said:
Frank asked a torque value question and reply #3 answered it. So now he sends a nasty personal message. Don't worry , I'll comply with your request.
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My nasty personal message was, Don;t respond to any of my posts,
What is nasty about that!
 
If you have the oil pan off best clean the screen and pan.
Take the pulley off and side the crankshaft gear back.
They put your new gear on, then slide crankshaft gear back on with dots lined up.
The cam gear was made to go on one way only.
Like a clock all points free with oil and also oil dist shaft.
 
George/Maine said:
If you have the oil pan off best clean the screen and pan.
Take the pulley off and side the crankshaft gear back.
They put your new gear on, then slide crankshaft gear back on with dots lined up.
The cam gear was made to go on one way only.
Like a clock all points free with oil and also oil dist shaft.
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thanks..George
 
I am using my old defective timing wheel to set the stage for fitting my new timing wheel. The old wheel pins and center shaft fit very tight....So I should not expect anything different from the new timing wheel.
 
Frank, Thanks for hanging in there, look forward to know your new gear finally works out.. Experience I don't have.... many thanks
 
100+#
Translation: At least 100 lb/ft of torque.
The majority of us know that though.

He asked for a torque value and he got an answer. He'll never get another from me.
 
The cam gear should a firm fit to the cam shaft
seat the gear on the shaft with a soft mallet I use a copper mallet
I never use the cam nut to seat the gear
 
forever4 said:
Why are you telling people not to reply to your posts? if your replies are not helpful then don't respond. I do not come on here to be insulted. I come on here for the enjoyment of working on my favorite car. If you can't say something helpful then don't respond unless you enjoy putting people down that come here to learn about fixing their dream car.

I want to thank all the great people that sent me personnel messages of encouragement and asked me not to leave the board because of nasties that seem to on every internet message board.
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colin1928 said:
The cam gear should a firm fit to the cam shaft
seat the gear on the shaft with a soft mallet I use a copper mallet
I never use the cam nut to seat the gear
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Thanks

Because this is the first time I have replaced a cam gear I wasn't sure how tight it should fit on the pins and shaft. Now I am measuring the diameter if the pins and shaft and holes in the new timing gear to make sure they are will fit.
 
Frank I think you will find it easier to remove the lower wheel so you only have to deal with the new wheel . Did you only work on electron watch's.
 
Finally got the timing gear on and torqued down properly.
Used a rag with no problem...Thanks for the insights.
preparing the timing gear cover for installation.
One question On the Thrust Spring
Les Andrews, in his book Model A mechanic s Handbook, say
Check the thrust spring for correct compression tension (35-38lbs)
How do I do that? Some kind of a reverse fish scale? I could probably would out a scale of some sort with weights, but I am not on a desert island..
Do people just replace the old spring? Rather not replace something original for something made in India.
Should I just buy a new spring...
 
The photo in post #48 looks like the crank gear is pretty rough. If that is the case, I would suggest that it be replaced also. It is probably what caused your fiber gear to fail, if in fact it is rusty or pitted.
 
FrankWest said:
Finally got the timing gear on and torqued down properly.
Used a rag with no problem...Thanks for the insights.
preparing the timing gear cover for installation.
One question On the Thrust Spring
Les Andrews, in his book Model A mechanic s Handbook, say
Check the thrust spring for correct compression tension (35-38lbs)
How do I do that? Some kind of a reverse fish scale? I could probably would out a scale of some sort with weights, but I am not on a desert island..
Do people just replace the old spring? Rather not replace something original for something made in India.
Should I just buy a new spring...
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AWESOME news Frank... Thank for sticking in there and sharing.. I've never done what you've done. With your steadfastness I know a little more... Thank you!
 
Here is a better photo of the cam gear and tim gear not indexing. Note the tiny indexing notch on the cam gear. Does this Cam gear really look like it needs replacing.
I thought my Original Timing gear just dried out and grew brittle after sitting in a garaga in the Ca desert for 20 years!
 

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