Installing Engine - Help

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I have a 1935 Fordor sedan. Engine block was cracked. Got a replacement engine. I am installing the replacement engine in the frame. I can not get the engine/housing to mount to the trany. I have 1.5 inches to go and can not get trany spline to slide into engine housing. Engine is on a hoist, trany jacked up, and rear of engine jacked to align; but I can NOT get it to slide in this last inch and a half!! Is there something I am missing?????? It is so close.

Thanks, Chuck
 
Sounds like the clutch disk and pilot bearing are not lined up properly. Did you use a pilot shaft to line them up, or just a visual?
 
That happened to me when I tried to install a flathead set-up to go into a '41 pickup into a '49 Tudor. It turned out that I needed to also change the flywheel. That fixed it! Just a thought..................
 
what year is replacement engine??....can you turn the engine to help align the clutch and transmission shaft??...or turn the trans. shaft to align with clutch....Mike
 
Sounds like the splines of the input shaft are not happy with the clutch disk. Assuming the disk/pressure plate/flywheel were assembled with some kind of line-up tool, have you tried to spin the input shaft a little bit? Can't that be done by spinning one of the rear tires with the trans in gear? Maybe you need to put the trans in neutral. Are you 100% sure the clutch will mate with the input shaft?

A trick I learned from JM35Sedan... He has some long (8") rods, same diameter and threaded the same as the trans bolts, with a screwdriver slot at the end where a bolt would have a cap. Use two of these, one at the 10 o'clock, and one at the 2 o'clock screwed into the bell housing. This puts two long pins coming out of the back of the engine as you bring the two assemblies together. These help tremendously to get the trans to engine angle in the proper line-up because they let you line up the bolt holes by putting the pins into the trans before the input shaft actually gets to the disk. Basically these long pins or rods coming out the back of the engine will line up the angles more easily than any method I've ever seen. Then when the trans goes in, screw in a couple of the other bolts, unscrew the rods.

Just spitballing.

-VeryTangled
 
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Hope he lined up splines with a dummy shaft first,plastic ones are availible almost anywhere.the pilot bolts are my method also. Helps to smear a little anti-seize on the splines also[a thin amount].I can also alighn them by a raised spline @ 12 o'clock and a groove at 12 o'clock by eye ball pretty good. ken ct.
 
If the clutch was depresssed anytime with the ****** out the disk could have moved. Check this with an alignment tool or you can make one out of a wood dowel that matches the front of the ******. Match the size of the pilot shaft and the outside of the spline. I'd check the pilot bushing ID Vs the ****** pilot OD just to be sure.

Replacing the pilot bushing and throwout bearing is always a good idea when the ****** is out.
 
Thanks for all the great ideas!! I am all ready to start anew this Saturday morning.

I used pilot bolts to align,greased spline. I need to check ID and OD?? Engine was out of 1935 cabriolet; need to check numbers.

THANKS for help!!

Chuck
 
Mine was a real pain even though everything fit. I used the pilot bolts idea and it worked great.
 
Easiest thing to try first...jack up 1 real wheel and spin it...it will turn shaft and that may be all you need...it worked for me recently.
 
oops, shouldn't have said spin it....have helper turn wheel just a tad whilst you wiggle the ******. Can't hurt anything, is easy, and when I did it just recently it popped right in. Good luck. Oh, and say a prayer too, which I usually forget to do until AFTER I get aggravated.
 
Okay; engine went in great! I checked ID/OD, all okay. Polished off the drive/receiver and lubed. I also think the pressure plate was out of alignment as moved it about 3 inches. Motor slipped in great.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP/SUGGESTIONS.

I am going to sell this car when I get the engine running. Had it for several years and the project is too expensive for me and kid is going to college, so need the money.

Thanks,

Chuck
 

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