Help Identify Clutch Pedal
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JM 35 Sedan
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Hopefully some pictures I've taken will post here, and will be helpful in identifying the pedal in question.
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V8COOPMAN
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Good mornin', John! You've posted some interesting pictures there for anyone trying to learn the differences in these old Ford pedals. For some reason, pedals have always caught my attention when I see them, and it's clear that SOME folks don't have a clue when they go to describe (for instance) pedals FOR SALE, or when just asking about some pedals they are contemplating using for a project.
MOST old Ford pedals and brackets have a number forged into them which is a definitive factor when ID-ing these parts. The PREFIXes (91A-, 99A-, 01A-, 09A-, and others) contain the greatest amount of heritage information. For instance, "91A-": The "9" denotes YEAR 1939. The "1" denotes Ford (rather than Mercury). The "A" denotes PASSENGER CAR or LIGHT truck application. "01A-" would equate to 1940 FORD passenger car/light truck. "09A-" (the "9" appearing as the SECOND digit indicates MERCURY) would have translated as 1940 MERCURY passenger car.
The SUFFIXes found AFTER the dash (-) indicates the group number that Ford uses to ID APPLICATION, or type of part. For instance, a "7520" (or 7519) indicates a CLUTCH pedal. A "2455" (or 2453) is Ford-speak for a BRAKE pedal. And Ford uses "2467" to indicate a pedal BRACKET.
Below is a picture of a complete 1939 FORD pedal set. 1939 pedals were a unique, one-year-only set of pedals that have larger pivots where the pedal mounts to the bracket, not to mention the clutch pedal's action being transmitted THROUGH the brake pedal pivot to the clutch release lever on the RIGHT side of the brake pedal....different for sure! This brings us to the point of my post, John. The pedals you have pictured with question marks MUST be '39 BRAKE pedals....notice the HUGE round pivot hole which is a '39-ONLY feature. I happen to have four different 1939 Ford pedal assemblies in my stash. Even though they all have the identical, basic numbers on the individual pieces, I've noted several minor differences between the four sets. I attribute these differences to possible updates for whatever reason, or possibly even the manufacture for Ford by different suppliers. So John, some good visual info from your pics.
A couple more little tidbits of info that MAY be found on pedals (as well as OTHER Ford parts)….if there is a "C" included in the numbers, it came on a CANADIAN-manufactured vehicle. If there happens to be an "F" in the number, the parts originated on a Right-hand drive (RHD) vehicle. DD
John's (JM35) Mystery Pedal below.... (It's a '39 Brake Pedal)
1939 PEDAL SET
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V8COOPMAN
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Mr. Will....You should note that the "09A-2453" pedal is a 1940 Merc. Look closely at the picture below and note that BOTH pedals slant toward the LEFT as compared with the 01A- (1940 FORD pedals). The 1940 Ford and Merc pedals will fit on the "01A-2467" bracket, which was used on 1940 through 1948 Fords AND Mercurys. I BELIEVE that even though a Ford BRAKE pedal has a "2455" suffix, the Mercury brake pedal ("09A-2453") has a SLIGHTLY different (but CLOSE) suffix of "2453" only to differentiate it from Mercury, because of the different SLANT. Same with the suffix numbering on the CLUTCH pedals....Ford-"7520", and Mercury- "7519".
It's going to be a lot easier to find the "01A-2455" Ford brake pedal just because of the huge difference in Ford and Mercury production figures. But what do I know? DD
Mr. Will
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V8COOPMAN,John's (JM35) Mystery Pedal below.... (It's a '39 Brake Pedal)
1939 PEDAL SET
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You are correct Johns mystery pedal is 39 brake 91A2455. I have a set as well.
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Mr. Will
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I realize that the 09A-2455 is Mercury and the shape is a little different. I did manage to get a 09A-2455 assembly from a friend over the weekend but, still need either a 09A-2455 like in the pic or a 01A-2455 which would probably work better but any of the above mentioned would work for what I am trying to accomplish.Mr. Will....You should note that the "09A-2453" pedal is a 1940 Merc. Look closely at the picture below and note that BOTH pedals slant toward the LEFT as compared with the 01A- (1940 FORD pedals). The 1940 Ford and Merc pedals will fit on the "01A-2467" bracket, which was used on 1940 through 1948 Fords AND Mercurys. I BELIEVE that even though a Ford BRAKE pedal has a "2455" suffix, the Mercury brake pedal ("09A-2453") has a SLIGHTLY different (but CLOSE) suffix of "2453" only to differentiate it from Mercury, because of the different SLANT. Same with the suffix numbering on the CLUTCH pedals....Ford-"7520", and Mercury- "7519".
It's going to be a lot easier to find the "01A-2455" Ford brake pedal just because of the huge difference in Ford and Mercury production figures. But what do I know? DD
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JM 35 Sedan
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Mr Will, I was in and out of this forum a few times, for a short while yesterday, and did not have time to respond to either you or V8COOPMAN. I believe you two understand the variations of pedals and pedal assemblies much better than I do. I just grabbed the different variants that I own, noted the Ford pedal part numbers, and quickly took the pictures for posting. The mystery pedal is apparently a '39 pedal, but the rust pitting had eliminated the part number, preventing me from IDing that. I have more of these pedal assemblies in my stash, but in the confusion of my move from garages to a new pole barn, some of these pedals are temporarily lost until I get things reorganized. It sounds like you now have the pedal you need for your project, but if this changes and you still require a part I have, let me know.
Mr. Will
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Coolguyanda36ford4dor
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Hello guys, Lots of good information here, just ran into the same problem today. I was wondering if anybody knows where I could get a bushing for the brake pedal 91A2455? What you think V8coopman
V8COOPMAN
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Hey Coolguy .....That is a '39 Ford BRAKE pedal which is a "one-year-only" pedal set. That is the pedal with the BIG bushing in the picture below. Those bushings have been impossible to get for many years now, but I understand that Fred Willner at Southside Obsolete (he goes by "barnfind08" here on the Ford Barn) still had some of those stashed somewhere in his nine buildings of NOS Ford parts. Normally, you could just send him a PM, but with you not having the requisite 10 posts to your name yet, you are ineligible to do any PM-ing yet. So, I'll list Fred's contact info below for you.
If Fred does NOT have the bushing, holler back here, as there is one other approach to fitting a bushing in that hole. DD
Fred Willner
Southside Obsolete
7136 200 St E, Faribault, MN 55021
(507) 332-6789
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