Header seam questions

[Barber31]

Can anybody explain which part is the one that blocks water from entering at the seam where the A pillar/visor/and header join? I have not seen a clear view if it's the header under the visor that has a lip that hangs over the A pillar or if it's the panel above the door that has a lip or what? Mine seems to just have a bondo or some sort to seal it and I want to do it correctly.

Also, this next seam at the rear of the front door is another area that I'm curious as to how it is sealed up to not let water enter during washes or rain storms.

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

The key is that the metal must be joined tightly to the wood. Any air gap between the metal and the wood allows moisture to enter.

 

[Barber31]

Thank you Brent.

 

[BRENT in 10-uh-C]

After reading this again, maybe I was not so clear. The top material needs to be tacked down (thru the sheetmetal) and so if there is any gap between the sheetmetal and wood, you cannot totally seal the edge.

 

[larrys40]

You have a Tudor and it looks like the panel above the door is filled or has been previously welded to the side rain gutter seam. Make sure it is welded and not filled with filler . The front joint as Brent said needs to be tight . It's about getting the panel to fit properly in the side for a proper door fit and the top of the curve of the header as well . Once fit a strip of 3m strip caulk isn't a bad idea underneath the panel in front to help in sealing
Along with the front you also have to make sure the front filler panel, welt, and visor fit rigt and well . Whatever you use in strip caulk as a sealer must be worked down very tight, once all on the front moulding of you choice is important to fit tr contour tightly to prevent leakage
I'm glad to say that my 30 Tudor done 35 years ago has never had a top leak and it has been in some monsoon rains . You will never be sorry for doing a well planned good job. On it . Watch your door fit in the upper top front corner .
Larry Shepard

 

[410merc]

I am glad this was posted , I have the same problem with my tudor , this helped me as well , thanks guys

 

[SSsssteamer]

For anyone that has experienced roof leaks: I did our 1929 Tudor's top in 1968 and it has held tight against rain for about 40 years, and it started to leak in 2008. It leaked both at the front header and really bad back at the top material's 's rear tacking strip. I stopped the leaks by using a clear silicone bath tub sealer. I lightly spread it across the seams and then wiped all off it that was still visible. By wiping clean, the excess silicone sealer was forced into the seams that were leaking. We drive our Tudor year round and here in Northwest Washington, and the Tudor does get a lot of rain.

 

[Barber31]

Thanks again guys for clarifying. I'm planning on dismantling those pieces next to continue with my bodywork but I wanted to show y'all before I took it apart. Since I wasn't sure how it was supposed to seal, I didn't know if any of my parts were missing pieces. All the other A's I've seen at shows (mostly street rods) are either filled with sealer and welting or welded smooth into a Steele roof.