head gasket not sealing

If this were my engine, I would run the piston down all the way, and with a medium flame on a number two or number three tip, heat just that little spot red and braze it. Then, use clear water and a sealer product I cant remember the name of now. It has "glass" in its name. I have read it's the very best crack sealer there is.
 
If this were my engine, I would run the piston down all the way, and with a medium flame on a number two or number three tip, heat just that little spot red and braze it. Then, use clear water and a sealer product I cant remember the name of now. It has "glass" in its name. I have read it's the very best crack sealer there is.


It's called "water glass", aka sodium silicate. Several block/cooling system sealers include it. Done properly it is a permanent fix but it's not for the faint-hearted or inattentive; the directions MUST be followed to the letter or disaster can result.
 
I will not say glad you found your problem.I hope you never let them pressure test next one.check speed shops for liquid glass speedway etc.
 
In my opinion, you need a different machine shop. good shops have been sleeving blocks for probably close to 100 years with no problems. I am sure mistakes are sometimes made. your shop should stand behind their work and re-sleeve that block, if you can trust them.
 
Since everyone has been so helpful with my water leak problem, I thought I would update you on my progress. As you know I found that my problem was not the head gasket at all. Rather it was the # 7 and # 1 cylinder sleeves that were leaking around the deck of the block. The reason the machine shops didn't catch it was that steel/rubber seal that they put on top of the block protrudes over the edge of the cylinder wall, thus covering the top edge of the sleeves, where it meets the block. Since this is where the leak occurred, the steel/rubber seal actually sealed this area so no water would pass. It was only after I made a seal that set back from the edge of the cylinder wall, to expose the outside edge of the sleeve, was the leaks found.
After considering my options and a lot of questioning, I decided that removing the sleeves and installing new ones would put too much stress on the block. I had several shops refuse to do the work and suggested that if they were to try, it could affect the other sleeves, thus causing them to leak. You have to consider this when a block has been sleeved in all 8 cylinders.
My only option was to consider a new block or some type of sealer. I have a very limited knowledge of chemistry so I researched all the types of sealers that are made for engine blocks. None of them really seemed like a real fix. I remembered that several years ago I had a tank lined from a company in town. The chemical that was used was a industrial two part epoxy. After a little research I found that it was called Phenol Novolac Epoxy. The properties of this epoxy allow up to 400 degrees and it's strength is remarkable. It is not affected by petroleum product nor alcohols. It is used to coat the inside of industrial tanks and pipe lines. The down fall of the product is that it has a pot life of about 20 minutes. After doing a little doing a little investigation I found a company that sells it under the name of a gas tank sealer. I found a lot of gas tank sealers, but this one is the Phenol Novolac Epoxy that I was looking for!
But sealing a gas tank and sealing a block is two different things. To use the product successfully you have to pour the epoxy inside, then tumble the tank in all different directions to coat the inside surface. This product is very thick much like cold molasses. This posed a problem in that how do you tumble a block? Also since my leak was coming from the top of the sleeve(at the deck), how would the sealer ever get up in that area? I had already determined that the water jacket, around the cylinder was intact, but it must have been cracked, allowing water between the old cylinder wall and the outside of the sleeve. I figured if I could get the sealer to push its way up into the crack and up between the old cylinder wall and the sleeve, the block would be sealed forever. So I decide that I could accomplish this by sealing up the block and adding inside pressure, after the epoxy was poured in. As far as tumbling the engine, I was able to do that on a engine stand. After closing up the block and adding 60psi the epoxy begin to seep out the rim of the sleeve ever so slightly. After 15 minutes I opened the block and allowed the epoxy to drain out of the block before it hardened. I am Glad to say the block is completely sealed and should stay that way.
Currently I assembling the engine and hope to have it up and running in a week. I will let you know how it does under the pressure of real driving. Successful or not it has been a real learning experience
 
good for you there is no substitute for knowledge which you will have learned from this success or fail.I should have clarified on other post where I said I could not say I was glad you found problem.what I meant by that was I was sorry to hear it was not an easy solve.not that I was sorry you found problem.hopefully combustion chamber temperatures do not affect the sealing.staying tuned
 
Update: I have the engine completely assembled and I have run a fresh water pressure test on the assembled engine at 25 psi for 30 minutes. Thankful to say there were NO leaks. Hope to have the engine installed in my tbird in next couple of days and see what it does under the heat of a running engine.
I am hopeful that the heat of the combustion camber will not effect the expoy. One machine shop told( not the ones that installed the sleeves) me that the lining of the chamber would not reach the 400 degrees that this epoxy is rated for. They said that the sealers, like permatex sleeve sealer, that are used on sleeves are only rated for 300 degrees.
 
Update: I am very happy to say that after high speed travel in 82 degree temps, the engine is totally sealed and there are no leaks. I have also had several cool down cycles to test its performance. In addition I have found that my engine is now running cooler than it ever did before. I can only imagine that the reason for this cooler running is the increased water flow through the block due to the smooth/slick phenol novolac epoxy coating inside the block. I do not believe that it is premature to say that this stuff is remarkable and my block is good for a long time. I am a old timer and have been very resistant to new products and new methods but this has been a good lesson for me.
 
good for you now fingers crossed it does indeed hold.I am like you when it comes to some of the stuff available today.in our day some would have sounded like Dr.Sellu snake oil
 
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