Hastings 60 rings

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Mongo

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I have a set Hastings rings.
One ring is the oil ring for the bottom piston groove.
Of the two remaining compression rings, one has no camfer or bevel on it and no identification on either side. Instructions say it can install with either side up. The other compression ring has a camfer / bevel and an ID dot. The instructions state the dot needs to be installed facing up.

The instructions do not indicate which piston groove either ring is to install into.

Any thoughts out there on this.

Thx all for your help.
 
Hastings usually has three separate compartments in the box stating which groove they
go in. Maybe you opened up the wrong side of the box.
 
I agree with Dodge. I just installed the same rings and the box they come in has compartments that are labeled for which groove the ring goes in. If you have them mixed up I think you should call their tech support for help.
 
Mongo said:
I have a set Hastings rings.
One ring is the oil ring for the bottom piston groove.
Of the two remaining compression rings, one has no camfer or bevel on it and no identification on either side. Instructions say it can install with either side up. The other compression ring has a camfer / bevel and an ID dot. The instructions state the dot needs to be installed facing up.

The instructions do not indicate which piston groove either ring is to install into.

Any thoughts out there on this.

Thx all for your help.
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The dot and chamfer face up in the top groove.


Bill
 
Mongo said:
I have a set Hastings rings.
One ring is the oil ring for the bottom piston groove.
Of the two remaining compression rings, one has no camfer or bevel on it and no identification on either side. Instructions say it can install with either side up. The other compression ring has a camfer / bevel and an ID dot. The instructions state the dot needs to be installed facing up.

The instructions do not indicate which piston groove either ring is to install into.

Any thoughts out there on this.

Thx all for your help.
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First off,...the "second ring" is an "oil control" ring! It's not a compression ring.

IF the chamfer is BELOW the "pip" mark....either on the outside OR inside
it's the second ring.

Dudley
 
bbrocksr said:
Hastings, The manufacturer calls it a second compression ring.


Bill
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Bill,
I'm sure the ring manufactures make it simple and call it a second compression
ring. But if you look at what they do to the second ring,..it's an oil control ring,
the machining of it. If you were to put the second ring in upside down..the
engine would pump oil.

Look at these ring side views...it's about 2/3rds down..

www.google.com/search?q=#2+engine+r...hUlr1QKHWnnCA0Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=mJIJ9OMahK730M:
 
d.j. moordigian said:
Bill,
I'm sure the ring manufactures make it simple and call it a second compression
ring. But if you look at what they do to the second ring,..it's an oil control ring,
the machining of it. If you were to put the second ring in upside down..the
engine would pump oil.

Look at these ring side views...it's about 2/3rds down..

www.google.com/search?q=#2+engine+r...hUlr1QKHWnnCA0Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=mJIJ9OMahK730M:
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This is taken from the original post.

Of the two remaining compression rings, one has no camfer or bevel on it and no identification on either side. Instructions say it can install with either side up.

If it has no Chamfer ,Bevel or outside scraper design to scrape oil and can be installed with either side up then it is probably a second compression ring
with a rectangular cross section.
I agree the more modern second groove rings have a outside scraper design to scrape oil down and must be installed with the scraper edge down.
But they still serve as a second compression ring as well as an oil scraper ring.

Not trying to argue but I have to agree with the manufacturer.

Bill
 
I'm with Bill, here. During the Model A era, the second ring was simply a second compression ring, because a single ring won't hold all the pressure. The oil control feature was designed into it as ring design evolved and there were a number of variations on the design: two rings of different radius to create a step, the step cut into a single ring, a reverse bevel of 3-5 degrees, etc. If you measure the spring tension of a modern second ring you will find it to be a compression ring with oil control features.
 
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