rfitzpatrick
Well-known member
In South Florida -- only store during a Hurricane !!
So according to the fuel-testers products like Sta-bil don't really do what they say they do? I don't believe that to be true because I've used the product and others of the same type in my small engines and have not had the starting problems caused by stale gas that I did in the past.
A model A gas tank is vented to the atmosphere.
Yes, but the goal is to reduce as much as possible the surface area where the atmosphere contacts either the fuel where moisture absorption can occur, or the surface of the tank where condensation can occur. A full tank does that.
The issue is other products have some form of alcohol in them, which actually attracts moisture into gas.
I was at a landscape equipment store yesterday, the owner said, do not leave gas in any equipment, lawnmower, leaf blower etc. for over a month. Should that be the same rule with The Model A, since all gas here has 10% Ethanol? I do use Sta-bil additive, does that help if its over a month in the tank?
The purpose of alcohol in those products is to bond with any water that is in the tank. The same thing the ethanol in E10 does. It puts the water in suspension which keeps it off the bottom of the tank and allows it to be burned in combustion. They do attract water but almost entirely the water that is already in the tank...especially if the tank is full and the cap is sealed.
Products like HEET are essentially pure Isopropyl alcohol.
"Isopropyl alcohol is a major ingredient in "gas dryer" fuel additives. In significant quantities water is a problem in fuel tanks, as it separates from gasoline and can freeze in the supply lines at low temperatures. Alcohol does not remove water from gasoline—but the alcohol solubilizes water in gasoline. Once soluble, water does not pose the same risk as insoluble water, as it no longer accumulates in the supply lines and freezes, but is consumed with the fuel itself."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol
Correct me if I misunderstand, but there is a secondary issue of the ethanol itself separating out of the gas over time. It's called phase separation. So E10 looses its ability to suspend the water in the gas, and the water and ethanol lies at the bottom of the tank.
I put Sta-bil in the tanks of the toys if I remember. A snow blower sat for two years with old gas and started on the first pull - I don’t remember if it had Sta-bil or not.
I know that I didn’t use it in the T or A last fall and they both stared without any problem.
My generator sat for Over a year and started without an issue last weekend.
I think that most of the issues that people report are not due to gas.