gas tank question

justcruisin68

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will a model a engine run properly with a fuel pump (for 1932 gas tank)?
i was just wondering about how the carb would work under pressure
instead of gravity fed. thanks for any replies....
 
My friend put a low pressure electric fuel pump on his early dodge brothers car the only problum he had was the crap from the fuel tank in the rear of the car would block up the fuel pump screen he got stuck at the shop i worked at i had to remove the fuel line blow back with air to get him home where he removed tank flushed and installed tank been running good after he did that.
 
A little dirty pencil & napkin breakfast engineering:

Gravity feed gasoline will give a pressure of 0.3125 psi per vertical foot. An "A" with a full tank will deliver slightly less than 1 psi to the needle valve. The "A" float and valve will close against ONE psi (delivered over the surface area of a standard needle valve, .008 sq, in) when a 2" diameter hinged float with a 2:1 leverage advantage is submerged an additional 0.055" beyond its open free-float height.

If the pressure is increased the float will need to be further submerged to close the valve. A pump that delivers three psi will require the fuel level in the "A" float bowl to go .11" higher than the stock setting. A five psi delivery, requiring .22" further submersion, would likely overwhelm the stock float even if it were reset to a lower static closed position.

Beware of too much pressure. Measuring very low settings, like on a fuel pressure regulator, is inaccurate at best with a bourdon tube gauge. If you want 2 psi, it is best to use a Dwyer gauge or set up a simple manometer. Gasoline will rise .3125 Ft/ psi, so about 6 1/2 feet up a clear hose from the carb level is exactly 2 psi.

The later square-float "B" carbs had an assist spring on the float. Not necessarily a good idea because varying spring tolerances would affect actual bowl running level independent of the float height setting.

A key design point in a carb float/valve is to have as little fuel bowl height variation as possible with changing pressure. The difference between an A with a full and empty tank on the carb bowl fuel level is less than 1/16 inch. If you try to operate it on a pump that swings up/down several psi you will have problems. A calibrated regulator after a fines filter would be a good idea. Later design carbs use different float leverage ratios, geometry, and valve design to address the problem, making them easy to operate with a pump that does not have tight output pressure regulation.

Last consideration: If you have a "B" tank in the rear with a low mounted updraft carb and park facing downhill, a slightly seeping needle valve will cause a gasoline flood. You have eliminated the safety shut-off valve of the A. The B mechanical diaphragm pump would not freely pass fuel when not running. Many electric pumps WILL. Beware.
 
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