Frozen Shackle

Dennis Pereira said:
X2 center the tool .
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Dennis, that was just a sample pic. I have had the tool centered, raised, shortened, tried to hammer the cleat under spring. Raised frame, raised banjo, angled tool, used a crowbar, used 2x4's. I'll get it out. I have my life insurance paid up and will take all safety measures along with pulling it out the garage. I was just thinking I was doing this all wrong since this is my first experience with Model A's. I appreciate the feedback from everyone!
 
Sure could use more pictures from the rear of the shackles. Looks like that spring is jammed between the two shackle bushings at each end. You need to jack up the body and pry the spring eyes above the shackle pivots. If you try to spread the spring where it is, you are just pushing against the axle housing in the area of the shackle pivots. You need to shorten the spring, not spread it. Good luck.
 
Jacksonlll said:
Sure could use more pictures from the rear of the shackles. Looks like that spring is jammed between the two shackle bushings at each end. You need to jack up the body and pry the spring eyes above the shackle pivots. If you try to spread the spring where it is, you are just pushing against the axle housing in the area of the shackle pivots. You need to shorten the spring, not spread it. Good luck.
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Jackson, point taken. I am working now but will post pics this evening.
 
Beauford, I just built mine and I know it would work on yours. All this talk about shackles doesn't make sense to me. Get a spreader that fits, like the one I just made and problem solved. My spreader still needs nuts and 5" of pipe cut off drivers side, but it would work for you. The shackle could be all the way up, down, or straight out. It's capable of a full adjustment. Check Tom's spreader measurements compared to the spreader you have. Sorry for the picture quality and sorry for replying to posts. I think I'm done now, getting a little ill. Pat
 

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Since its still in the frame put your body armor on and cut the dang shackle .. its no different from a shackle breaking..
 
Hmmmm... refer to #3 & #4. Hammer and beat that spreader in !! You can cut or remove the shackles at that point. If it were me, I'd then take it to someone who can modify the spreader you have to fit all situations. All you need is a inch or so off the bottom support brace and a little extra support on the top. Be safe !! P.S. on second thought get a spreader that fits or modify yours now. Beating on it in the condition it's in, is not safe either. Caution on this one !
 
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If that spring bolted inside the rear frame mount is going to shoot into outer space I wonder how many people went flying in the 20-30's when their Shackles /bolts broke on pot holed roads? Amazing how our parents/grandparents survived. LOL By Wednesday this thread will be over. I'll have pictures of it out and maybe me at the ER. It will get done. I'm a little freaked out by the safety concerns and appreciate it but two pieces of metal are slowing me down. Thanks again!
 
Beauford said:
If that spring bolted inside the rear frame mount is going to shoot into outer space I wonder how many people went flying in the 20-30's when their Shackles /bolts broke on pot holed roads? Amazing how our parents/grandparents survived. LOL By Wednesday this thread will be over. I'll have pictures of it out and maybe me at the ER. It will get done. I'm a little freaked out by the safety concerns and appreciate it but two pieces of metal are slowing me down. Thanks again!
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Yea man thats what im talikn bout... u got me torqued
 
My spreader is a homemade job, 3/4 " water pipe, 3/4" ready rod. It works fine on the front spring. I have the steel for a new one, but not the ambition. LOL There is a picture of it in my album, complete with the bent ready rod. What I wanted to say was the force is to close up the arc of the spring, Not to spread out/flatten like a bow. It seems counterintuitive , at least to me. Good luck with it!
Terry
 
Yeah It was a new and more lethal form of the old Ford Fracture! Actually the spring is pretty well contained with the two U-bolts that connect it to the frame.Thinking out of the box, why is it still in the frame? Why not take the rear and spring out of the frame and put a heavy bar of steel under the top of the curve/bow with a large C-clamp. Chain the end down tight, very tight. You can safely take the two nuts off the shackle and drive the shackle out of spring with a 2x4 8' long so you are well away from it when it lets go. you may want to stand behind a 4x8 sheet of plywood. If you've ever changed a tire on a split rim, it was a common practice to keep plywood between you and the tire when you were filling it with air. This method has been used before with some success.
Terry



Beauford said:
If that spring bolted inside the rear frame mount is going to shoot into outer space I wonder how many people went flying in the 20-30's when their Shackles /bolts broke on pot holed roads? Amazing how our parents/grandparents survived. LOL By Wednesday this thread will be over. I'll have pictures of it out and maybe me at the ER. It will get done. I'm a little freaked out by the safety concerns and appreciate it but two pieces of metal are slowing me down. Thanks again!
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Terry said:
Yeah It was a new and more lethal form of the old Ford Fracture! Actually the spring is pretty well contained with the two U-bolts that connect it to the frame.Thinking out of the box, why is it still in the frame? Why not take the rear and spring out of the frame and put a heavy bar of steel under the top of the curve/bow with a large C-clamp. Chain the end down tight, very tight. You can safely take the two nuts off the shackle and drive the shackle out of spring with a 2x4 8' long so you are well away from it when it lets go. you may want to stand behind a 4x8 sheet of plywood. If you've ever changed a tire on a split rim, it was a common practice to keep plywood between you and the tire when you were filling it with air. This method has been used before with some success.
Terry
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I have 1/2 inch plywood. 5 ton tow strap to wrap the whole rear. A new center bolt and a empty truck bed to haul this toasted frame.
 
Sounds like you got it pretty well thought out Beauford. Sure sounds exciting !! I wish I were there, just around the corner, watching. :eek:
 
Do you have a length of stainless 1/4" or better cable, if you did, you could wrap that around it at 1 to 2" spacing from one side to the other then back ,then there's no where the spring could go. It wouldn't hurt and that stuff can take a beating. Just a thought. Just worried when you cut the shackles that the main bolt holding the springs could let go if everything else is that rusty


Saving iron from the scrap pile one piece at a time
 
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Patrick

you can just cut the shackle with a torch. but when you do. you will create another problem. the throw of your spring spreader does NOT have enough adjustment to unload the spring. you will need at least have 5" of adjustment to unload the spring.
 
jw hash said:
Patrick

you can just cut the shackle with a torch. but when you do. you will create another problem. the throw of your spring spreader does NOT have enough adjustment to unload the spring. you will need at least have 5" of adjustment to unload the spring.
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I'll lift frame off with a ******** engine hoist.
 
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