Ford bell housingford casting number AE 9464-E

[frnkeore]

I'm trying to identify what engine this AE 9464-E bell housing fits. It has a casting date of 1949 and mounts to a 4 bolt '49 and later transmission.

It has a 4 bolts to the block and 2, 3/8 dwell pins. The top 2 bolts are about 6.03 c/c.

 

[rotorwrench]

Ford part number follow a specific number code. For example, a bell housing for a Ford engine in the late 40s/early 50s would be in the 6300 parts range with a specific being 6392 for a clutch & flywheel housing. There are a few parts in the 6400 range but not so many.

The 9400 range would include fuel pump mounting and intake manifold items as well as heat riser valves and such. There is no 9464 specific part number in the 1949 through 1953 parts catalog but it may go on into the Y-block era.

Recheck the number to make certain it is correct. Casting numbers aren't always well formed. There is an AE-6493-E bell housing for Y-blocks.

 

[V8COOPMAN]

I'm trying to identify what engine this AE 9464-E bell housing fits. It has a casting date of 1949 and mounts to a 4 bolt '49 and later transmission.

It has a 4 bolts to the block and 2, 3/8 dwell pins. The top 2 bolts are about 6.03 c/c.

Is this anything like the bellhousing about which you ask?

Coop

 

[frnkeore]

I knew I should have took a picture, before asking. I reversed the numbers in my head, before I got it posted.

Here is the picture. It's AE 6394-E, with what I believe is a casting date of 49.

I thought maybe it was a 226 H, 6 cyl but, the picture I could find of that engine, doesn't look much like it.

This bell only has four, 7/16 mounting bolts. Your Y block pic has a lot more. I have my '54 223, in the car but, it doesn't look like that either and that 49 casting date, would rule out OHV engines?

 

[rotorwrench]

The AE prefix is a mid 50s prefix and most likely for a car. I suspect that the number that seems to be a date may not be. Flathead H-series 6 and V8 were all that was produced in 1949 and that bell is not for any of those. Just an educated guess would be a 1954 Y-block or 6-cylinder.

 

[frnkeore]

I'll have to double check with the guy I got it from. He is a Y block guy and has set a Bonneville record with a 239 opened to 258.

He thought it might be a FE and that's why I got it. I compared it with a 292, Y Block at his place. Does the 239 & 256 engine, have a different bolt pattern than the '55 272 and up blocks?

 

[paul2748]

Bolt patterns for the bell was the same for all Yblocks. Your does look like a Yblock bell. Yblocks only had 4 bolts holding the bell to the block. Unfortunately, the full bell is not shown

 

[rotorwrench]

This is a link to one on flea pay. It's for the small Ford Y-blocks (big being Lincoln Y-block)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185498639582?epid=1623782483&hash=item2b30949cde:g:v4UAAOSwhb9izhjG
You can see the Cleveland foundry marking on it. This foundry didn't exist yet in 1949.

I checked the 1949 thru 1959 parts books and they only list a much later part number B9AA-6392-C dated to 1959. The 54 on 6-cylinders list a 1960 prefix but I think they use six bolts where the Y-block uses four. All the earlier part numbers were obsoleted for the OHV 6-cylinders and the small Ford Y-blocks for the 1959 book.

My Mercury books have Mercury prefixes on the bell housings so they were different but they do use the 6392 base number. Mercury started offering the 368 in 1956 so they are a different block from then on for cars equipped with Lincoln Y-blocks or MEL blocks. The FE has a different bolt up than what the y-blocks have.

 

[paul2748]

Does it look like this? 56 Ford, assume V8 but not sure

 

[frnkeore]

Thank you, very much, rotorwrench for doing all that, you too, Paul. I really appreciate it.

I only came here, because I thought that the 49 was a date code.

I've never been a Y Block guy (FE & SBF) but, I'm very surprised that the guy I got it from, didn't know. He is a Y Block guy.

Thanks again!