Excess oil....???!!!???

bobpo

bobpo

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It was an absolutley beautiful day here in NW Ohio so Momma & I decided to take Miss Tillie for a drive. 122+ miles in all, along the river etc.

I noticed that after a long stretch of roadway and then parking, I could see a puddle of oil on the ground below the engine pan on the driver's side. When we got home, I lifted the hood and found that the sock I had covering the oil breather was overly saturated with engine oil and oil was running down the pan and onto the floor.

Do I have too much oil in the engine that would cause this? The breather tube has at least a couple of baffles in it. :(
 
The sock may have blocked the breathing and caused back pressure, which would force oil out the rear main. Or the small tube on the rear main cap might have come loose and dropped into the pan. Or you might have a bad rear main bearing. If you have more than 4-1/2 qts of oil in her, you have too much, but I'm not sure that would cause your problems. All these theories are predicated on running a stock Model A. If you've modified the engine, all bets are off.
 
I'm leaning toward the amount of oil. I may have too much oil in it. The sock is a loose fitting one. The oil is all over the engine pan below the Oil Breather/Filler Tube and dripping down the pan and onto the floor. I'm going to try to remove some of the oil with a suction pump as there is too much on the dipstick. (above the "FULL" mark).
 
Are you sure there isn't water in the bottom of the pan that would raise the level of oil?
 
As you mentioned, it is probably a higher than normal oil level. I had the same situation and I allowed it to seek its own level. I had a piece of foam rubber in the cap and, when I removed the cap with the car running, I could see the oil misting out of the fill pipe.
 
bobpo said:
I'm leaning toward the amount of oil. I may have too much oil in it. The sock is a loose fitting one. The oil is all over the engine pan below the Oil Breather/Filler Tube and dripping down the pan and onto the floor. I'm going to try to remove some of the oil with a suction pump as there is too much on the dipstick. (above the "FULL" mark).
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Hey Bob,
hmm, the ole sock in the filler tube trick:)! know it well and have been using it for ever. i change sock with oil changes. you are most likely correct in you 'too much' oil assumption. thats what i found also and have kept the oil in my warmed up engine..about qt low. even after rings seated good, i found that qt low on stick is perfect! But, the sock stays! wife keeps asking...how come only one sock to a pair..at times:D
 
hardtimes said:
Hey Bob,
hmm, the ole sock in the filler tube trick:)! know it well and have been using it for ever. i change sock with oil changes. you are most likely correct in you 'too much' oil assumption. thats what i found also and have kept the oil in my warmed up engine..about qt low. even after rings seated good, i found that qt low on stick is perfect! But, the sock stays! wife keeps asking...how come only one sock to a pair..at times:D
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,,,Blame the washing machine for eating them,,,,,
 
Hey all

Didnt get that one... If you change socks with oil changes (as said)
your wife might have back the missing one. :D
To reduce conversations, better switch to use socks of your wife.

I didnt even know "the old sock trick" .
Oil in my Stock-Tudor is allways on "F"
(German phrase of today : "Wer gut schmiert, der gut fährt")
Even so - not much "misting"... (whats wrong?)
 
bobpo said:
I'm leaning toward the amount of oil. I may have too much oil in it. The sock is a loose fitting one. The oil is all over the engine pan below the Oil Breather/Filler Tube and dripping down the pan and onto the floor. I'm going to try to remove some of the oil with a suction pump as there is too much on the dipstick. (above the "FULL" mark).
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I believe you have found the problem. I find that any oil over the full mark will cause problems like this and leaks at the rear main. All my engines that go out with oil only get enough to measure halfway between the F and L marks. Keep it at this level to minimize problems.
 
Tom Wesenberg said:
5 quarts after the pan has been removed, and 4 quarts for oil changes.
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Tom, I really think this is bad advise.:o I am a firm believer that oil should be checked after putting in 3 quarts and after subsequent every quart. Even then, the engine should be run and left sitting for 10 minutes , then check the oil to insure the proper level. This will minimize the possibility of overfilling the crankcase. Besides, there is possibly 1/2 quart in the valve chamber even after removing the pan.:eek:
 
Just mentioned the other day, was the proper oil level... it should be to the bottom of the "F" on the dipstick. You haven't mentioned where yours is in relation to the "F" mark. Another question: are you running an oil filter?
 
Well I checked and sure enough, the oil level on the Dipstick and it shows the oil to be above the FULL MARK. (by at least 1/8th inch). I'm thinking here that maybe the Little Dipstick was being checked by the Big Dipschtick.........And No, I din't have an Oil Filter.

As the "Katzenjammer Kids" used to say;

"DER SCHMARTZ I AIN'T, DER LERNINK I YAM"

Once again, the professors at "U of F" (University of Fordbarn) are to be given an A+
 
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after doing an oil change mine sits below the F mark and I never seem to have issues with oil! Like james rogers said "All my engines that go out with oil only get enough to measure halfway between the F and L marks. Keep it at this level to minimize problems. "
 
i agree you might want to try lowering the oil level. Also, check for seepage around the base of the oil fill pipe. It's only a press fit and if that pipe is loose at all, oil can get blown out thru that crack and it's hard to tell that it's not coming from the top.
 
I'm kinda thinking like Ray.. Where is the leak ?? Does it appear to be the rear of the engine/bellhousing or under the rear of the engine to frame side pan ?? If its under the side pan then maybe its crankcase pressure/blow-by.. Is there any oil between your sock ,block and side pan ??
 
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