Don't hammer me for asking this..

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Larry Jenkins

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But.. Is a 1932 Ford Model B V8 engine a direct drop in to a 1930 Model A frame?

if the mountings are the same, is there any other required changes?

Thank you!

Larry
 
the early flatty mounts the same as the older ones I think. completely diff from the B 4 cyl
 
Beater said:
the early flatty mounts the same as the older ones I think. completely diff from the B 4 cyl
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A little confused. I had a "B" 4 cylinder engine in my second Model A, a 30 Deluxe Coupe..

Are you saying I could drop the 32 V8 right into a 30 frame? (That's the original question.)

Larry
 
Larry,

Front motor mounts sit on pads in the cross member in ’32 and a yoke in the Model A

Radiator needs two outlets top and bottom for V8

V8 trans mounted on the K member in ’32 so you need to build a rear mount for the transmission

Clutch and brake mount on the A bellhousing, they mount on the K member in 1932

Of course exhaust system is different

I assume you are talking 21 stud engines, that later ones don't fit quite as well

Charlie Stephens
 
Charlie Stephens said:
Larry,

Front motor mounts sit on pads in the cross member in ’32 and a yoke in the Model A

Radiator needs two outlets top and bottom for V8

V8 trans mounted on the K member in ’32 so you need to build a rear mount for the transmission

Clutch and brake mount on the A bellhousing, they mount on the K member in 1932

Of course exhaust system is different

I assume you are talking 21 stud engines, that later ones don't fit quite as well

Charlie Stephens
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Thank you Charlie.. Great explanation.

I just watched a video on YouTube that was a 35 minute original film of the introduction of the 1932 Model B. Because of it's content, it became very clear that the 32 is nothing like the 30s.

I might add the engineering on the 32 was well beyond the 28/31s. Henry had a great Engineering team, along with his superb "micro managing." ;)

I'll keep my original engine. Thanks to all..

Larry
 
what he said. sorry I wasn't clear. the early 32 first year flatty was considerably smaller and lighter then the 40-50s engine
 
Larry Jenkins said:
But.. Is a 1932 Ford Model B V8 engine a direct drop in to a 1930 Model A frame?
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Larry Jenkins said:
A little confused. I had a "B" 4 cylinder engine in my second Model A, a 30 Deluxe Coupe..

Are you saying I could drop the 32 V8 right into a 30 frame? (That's the original question.)

Larry
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Where the confusion is, ...you asked about a Model B V8 engine. There is no such thing. It is either a Model B or a Model 18. The Model 18 is the 1932 V8 whereas the Model B is the 4 cylinder.
 
BRENT in 10-uh-C said:
Where the confusion is, ...you asked about a Model B V8 engine. There is no such thing. It is either a Model B or a Model 18. The Model 18 is the 1932 V8 whereas the Model B is the 4 cylinder.
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Geez Brent..

Don't care what they called it. It's a V8 engine that Henry offered as an option for the 1932 Model B Ford.

Most of us underlings know what was presented..

Larry
 
What Brent is trying to tell you is there is no such thing as a Model B, V8. It is a Model 18.
By the way, Brent is one of the most knowledgable, helpful members on the barn.
Wayne
 
The 32,33,34... wes designed for a v8. The model B "a 4 cylinder engine" is actually longer than the v8 engine. As a result drive shaft...etc had to be shortened to fit the 4 cylinder engine. I guess a lot of customers wanted to stay with the proven 4 cylinder engine. I have a 1933 model B.. The 4 cylinder engine is really crammed into becuae the 33 has the slanted grill. When I had to replace my timing gear it was a matter of a 1/16 inch clearance to remove the time gear cover.
So the v8 being smaller than the 4 cylinder engine and the fact that 1932 was designed for the v8..should fit, but you will have to replace the drive shaft from the trans to the differential because of the shorter length if your car originally had a 4 cylinder engine. If you have a model B engine in there already. Just upgrade it to a downdraft intake and stromberg dual carb and you may achieve the hp of the early v8.
 
This is a 1932 model B front motor mount . The front crossmember would have the rubber cushions on the ends. It's not a bad swap to do and more Horsepower
 
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Larry Jenkins said:
A little confused. I had a "B" 4 cylinder engine in my second Model A, a 30 Deluxe Coupe..

Are you saying I could drop the 32 V8 right into a 30 frame? (That's the original question.)

Larry
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No, not possible. It's the '32 FRAME that is 100 percent different from model A ! Therefor, what Pete said...
 
vulture said:
This is a 1932 model B front motor mount . The front crossmember would have the rubber cushions on the ends. It's not a bad swap to do and more Horsepower
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The picture illustrates your point but I think what you show is not a '32, probably (a guess) a '33-'34.

Charlie Stephens
 
Larry Jenkins said:
Thank you Charlie.. Great explanation.

I just watched a video on YouTube that was a 35 minute original film of the introduction of the 1932 Model B. Because of it's content, it became very clear that the 32 is nothing like the 30s.


Larry
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Larry. How about posting a link to that film?
Thanks
 
Larry Jenkins said:
Geez Brent..

Don't care what they called it. It's a V8 engine that Henry offered as an option for the 1932 Model B Ford.

Most of us underlings know what was presented..

Larry
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Larry, Let's keep things straight for the next generation. The 1932 Model B Ford" is a four cylinder only! There was no V8 "option" for the Model B. If the car came with a V8, it was a 1932 Model 18!
 
Larry Jenkins said:
Geez Brent..

Don't care what they called it. It's a V8 engine that Henry offered as an option for the 1932 Model B Ford.

Most of us underlings know what was presented..

Larry
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Ford produced Two cars in 1932: the Model B, and the Model 18. & Model 40. These succeeded the Model A. The Model B continued with the four cylinder and was available from 1932 and I think up to 1934. The V8 was offered as the Model 18 in 1932, Model 40 in 1933 & 1934. The same bodies were available on both 4 cylinder Model Bs and V8 Model 18s this is where I believe some of the confusion comes from.
 
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