Gents,This spring I drained my antifreeze and the color was rusty brown. (It was NAPA-green) So after searching "the barn" I decided to use the vinegar treatment. Sooo, I put in 2-1/2 gal. of vineger, drove it for about 50 miles over about 10 days, drained the system, poured the contents (a putrid foamy stinky mess) into a laundry tub--let it set overnight--and a crusty flacky floating layer was laying on top of the liquid (brown). I then drained off the fluid,leaving a pile of flaky granules as shown in pile #1 in the attachment. Soooo, I flushed the system with water and repeated the vinegar treatment. See pile #2--same process--same result!! Soooo, I repeated 2 more times see pile #3 & #4 with the same results. I was gaining by removing a lot of crud , but after 10 gallons of vinegar and 200 miles of driving and with no end in sight, I went back to "the barn" and found that some had used Evaporust-Thermocure so I tried that product. 1 guart of the product and 2 1/2 gal of water, 4 hours of driving over 10 days and it was time to drain the system.---2 1/2 gallons of the Blackest looking liquid I've ever seen--no grit just Black liquid. So according with the products instructions I flushed the system 4 times with water and WALA, clear water!!!