Commerical Head lights

[dirt t]

I'm building a 30 CCPU and have a friend that has a pair of these head lights.
What's the difference?
Thank you for your time
Terry aka dirt t

 

[barnstuf]

Although some 1930 CCPU owners like to "dress up" the pickup by using passenger car stainless steel 1930-31 headlamps, the factory commercial issue was a painted black headlamp shell with the same stainless rim to hold the lens as the passenger car had.

 

[Charlie Stephens]

And since the CCPU didn't have cowl lights each reflector had places for 2 bulbs (like the standard passenger cars).

Charlie Stephens

 

[1ton]

And, the commercial headlight buckets are not stainless steel.

 

[RonC]

There are stainless shells out there that were factory painted black. I have seen 2 pairs.

 

[rogerkb1936]

blacklites and rad shell looks gooder on a pu

 

[Joe K]

There are stainless shells out there that were factory painted black. I have seen 2 pairs.

For the "commercial" line Ford tended to use what was available and at hand.

For the 28-29, imperfect plating was a reason to relegate parts to the commercial line - painted black to cover the imperfection.

And, IIRC, the black wiring "conduit" were only used on 1930 & beyond AA production, and not even all of that.

Joe K

 

[Chris Haynes]

I have a pair of 1930 Commercial headlight buckets. Unfortunately right now I can only put my hands on one of them.

 

[flathead1150]

When I got my 30 Pickup, changed the Stainless headlight buckets, radiator shell, to black, along with fabric conduits, Although many trucks have Cowl Lights,and stainless headlight buckets and radiatiator shell, I guess each there own likes.

 

[dirt t]

Thank you for the replies.
Terry aka dirt t

 

[CHuDWah]

You didn't ask but here's a little more 30-31 pickup info. Taillight bucket, radiator shell and cowl band also are painted black. All are plain steel, not stainless, although the taillight has a stainless rim same as passenger. The shell is straight across the top below the badge - doesn't have the "widow's peak" like passenger. AFAIK, the badge and crank-hole cover are the same as passenger.

Seems most pickups have been "upgraded" with bright passenger parts - so much so that the painted commercial parts are hard to find.

 

[Charlie Stephens]

You didn't ask but here's a little more 30-31 pickup info. Taillight bucket, radiator shell and cowl band also are painted black. All are plain steel, not stainless, although the taillight has a stainless rim same as passenger. The shell is straight across the top below the badge - doesn't have the "widow's peak" like passenger. AFAIK, the badge and crank-hole cover are the same as passenger.

Seems most pickups have been "upgraded" with bright passenger parts - so much so that the painted commercial parts are hard to find.

I hate to disagree. The shell on an AA truck was straight across but on the pickup it had the "widows peak" and looked like a plain steel version of the 1930 passenger car shell for 1930 and 1931. The badge matched the passenger car badge for the respective year.

Charlie Stephens

 

[jimalabam]

Right On Charlie. Correct advice...

 

[CHuDWah]

I hate to disagree. The shell on an AA truck was straight across but on the pickup it had the "widows peak" and looked like a plain steel version of the 1930 passenger car shell for 1930 and 1931. The badge matched the passenger car badge for the respective year.

Charlie Stephens

Right you are. I even started a thread on it a while back (https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224658&highlight=pickup) and still got confused - hey, I'm old!

It also should be noted this applies to trucks after the mid-30 changeover from the 28-29 style.

Thanks for the correction.

 

[Chris Haynes]

There are stainless shells out there that were factory painted black. I have seen 2 pairs.

And you know they were factory painted how?

 

[RonC]

And you know they were factory painted how?

The shells are unpolished stainless. The stainless virgin cross grain has never been buffed out. The shell is painted black over the stainless. the black paint is "under" the riveted bracket.

 

[RonC]

It’s hard to tell in photo but the stainless has never been buffed.

 

[Bob from Northport]

Someone said the cowl band on a 30-31 commercial is painted black. Would that be true for a Panel truck 1931???

 

[Bob C]

The Standards say it was painted body color but deluxe models would be stainless.