comments from a new model Aer

Pa Joe

Pa Joe

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I got my 28 tudor about a month ago and I have been spending all my spare time (and money) getting it safe and reliable as possible. I'm retired so I got the time, wish I could say the money.There starting to know me by my first name at Snyders. Anyway, I never saw so many cotter pins and castle nuts in my life. Went thru a whole box of cotter pins already. Didn't they have lock washers back in those days? I'm not complaining, I'm having fun. I like the mechanical part and the driving part of the hobby. Just cant do body work. My 2 cents
 
Welcome to the hobby. I got into it 1 year ago and am also having a ball. I don't do body work or much mechanical work but I do a lot of cleaning, polishing, reading Fordbarning and driving my A. I never dreamed retirement would be this much fun.
 
Just want to welcome the both of you to the hobby. Hope you are joining local clubs (the Houston area has a couple) and taking adbvantage of the expertise of thier members as well as the fun activities. it's great.
 
Castle nuts and cotter pins hold up best on mile after mile of dirt and washboard roads. you will find plenty of lock washers also
 
That makes sense. the washboard roads. What doesn't make sense to me is with dirt roads I would think there would be an air cleaner.
 
I agree with Joe about the air cleaner, and not just because of the dirt issues. I live in Florida and one time I was tooling down the highway at about 50 mph and the air maze fell off------never did find it, and the excess hot air that rushed into the carb caused it to shut down and bring the coupe to a screaching halt! It's a good thing I was wearing socks that day! A little duct tape that I always carry and the sock did the trick. The car ran fine until I could get a new maze and filter. As for the cotter pin assortment........the list of sizes is amazing, but so simple and reliable!

Jack
 
Hey Joe talked to you by email the other day, as we talked about it does take a lot of spare time, money I know were you are coming from. When you get kinda "fed up" with the car as most people do take a couple of days off from working on it just go and do something else and when you come back to it it will seem new again I have been working all my spare time for the past 8 months and you can get burnt out on it. So a little advice.... get the car running and restored that way first that way you can drive it while you fix other things that are not as important if a car is rough but all the drive train is good at least you can drive it and have some fun. As for the cotter pins Brattons sells a complete set all the cotter pins for the hole car for around 15.00 just ordered a set a while back, well hope to see you more on here with good updates on the car, enjoy Robert DeBord
 
Another newbie. Welcome aboard brother. Lots of nice guys here, with allot of knowledge go with them. I hope you enjoy the ride. It's like no other I've ever had. But with 24 post already under your belt, I see you know where to find answers already. Good luck with your tudor.
 
1/16x1/2" - 17, 3/32x1"-62, 1/8x1 1/2"-64, and 5/32x1"-2. Thats from Lwes andrews book. If you want exact sizes see les andrews book, otherwise you can get by with this assortment. The rule of thumb is the cotter should bee tight in the bolt hole so the spindle cotters are worn larger. Bob
 
I don't run an air filter, but I do change my oil frequently. Some people swear by filters, but I would suspect that any added restriction to an already restrictive intake system would negatively effect performance, fuel economy and the balance of the carb. I have a couple of Ts and one good running A, but have never tried a filter, so I can't be sure. Most of the dust and dirt either gets pushed out the exhaust, washed into the crankcase by the rings or turns to carbon. I figure if you change your oil often, you're getting most of the dirt out anyways. But I could be wrong. What do users of filters have to say?
 
Paul and Others....

I also feel that the air filter adds too much restriction to the air flow in the Model A system.

Oil is cheap and easy to change.

Welcome to the hobby !

Marc
 
Welcome to the hobby Joe. I am new to it also although I have owned my rig for over 50 years. Just now getting around to restoring it. But these guys on the Barn have been a great help in answering questions for someone that does not even how to ask the question!
 
Thanks for the welcome I already learned a lot from you guys and the Les Andrews books. Today I replaced the front spring, installed a shock kit. Last week, I installed a F100 steering box and replaced all the ball swivel joints in the steering along with a easy steer teflon kit. Week before that, i rebuilt the Tillison carb and replaced the speedo cable and added a 30A fuse on top of the starter, and replaced the hand brake bands. Nice to be retired. Joe
 
hi paul from maine, i have always used the airmaze and have no ill effects what so ever (it came on the car and all i did was clean it)
 
Be glad you didn't choose a car with a welded body! Bolted bodies rule.

Try putting the right angle intake, WITHOUT the Maze, pointing UP. Along with running engine side shields, you may avoid sucking a small bird into your carb (been there, done that, no T-shirt though).

Some may complain that you are getting hotter, less dense air drawing from around the exhaust down-pipe rather than from the air running under the car, but I haven't noticed that it makes a difference on combustion, power, Plug coloration, or throttle response.

My oil MAY be a little cleaner with the pipe aimed UP, but that is observational speculation.
 
Hi, new guys! Welcome to the best hobby you could have possibly picked.

And we always have "fun" with a new (or old) discussion topic that we can kick around and learn from. Now you gentlemen have re-opened one of our favorites - air filters!

My own engineering experience and training says that ALL machinery, especially machines as bearing-intensive and lubrication-dependent as an engine, MUST have all possible protection from outside contaminants. Dust, even (and especially) on a microscopic level, is an abrasive that accelerates wear throughout an engine. And just because the dust is trapped in the oil does not protect engine parts from exposure - it simply ensures that the dust will be circulated to all engine parts (especially bearings) with equal opportunity!

I can't speak for Snyders, but I suspect that the reason they said "don't bother" about an Air-Maze is that it's practically as good as having no filter at all! It's only a "rock-catcher and bird-barrier". It's equivelant to insect screening wrapped into a cylindrical shape and attached to your carburetor to make you feel good. It's next to useless as a filter of fine dust particles.

I will always protect my significant investment with an air filter (Snyders A-9600-HV) and an oil filter (Ford FL-1A mounted on the valve cover). I've been using this over-sized paper air filter for years and see no difference in engine performance or gas mileage with or without it. When I change it out at 500 miles I see slight discoloration and trapped, fine dust. It's worth it to my peace of mind to know that this dirt is NOT going through my engine.

Filtration is among my very few departures from the "But Henry did it such-and-such a way" mentality as a "purist". In his day, the vibratory abuse of nasty roads, human abuse and lack of disciplined servicing probably reduced car life faster than the affects of dust wearing down engine bearings. And they drove so few miles per year (compared to today) that the cars accumulated a lot of years way before they racked up tens-of-thousands of miles.

An engine needs and deservers FILTRATION - IMHO!

Earle
 
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