Changing those bands

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The ford time for the labor to change all three bands in the transmission. How many times would it take for a Model T owner to actually change their bands. For me it was probably 10 hours. Though by the time I was done I was pretty sure I could do it faster. And yes it was on my touring car where there's all kinds of room to work. I can't imagine what it would be like to change them on a coupe or a sedan. I will say though I was impressed with the band tool that can be bought through the parts distributors. But even that takes practice and only worked for me if I hooked the bands on the tool and put cable ties around each side where the band hooks onto the tool. This is a job that could stand to be researched and have a process documented.
 
If I ever get my sedan together....then drive it enough to wear a set out...I think I would remove the passenger seat.I bought att the tools for changing bands,but never really thought they were much help. But I was new at it and got it done otherwise. That was on a 26 touring. I never had to do a set on my speedster. Sure wish I had that speedster back.I probably would have just stuck my body on it till the chassis was being built for the sedan.
 
Yeah Right!! The book gives a mechanic 40 minutes with a set off the shelf... that includes replacing the floorboards, mats,fender covers,AND wiping all the fingerprints off. No extra time allowed for making up BAD WORDS!. Some knucklehead held the record for like 14 minutes. Probably had 12 inch long fingers! ET PHONE HOME! wws
 
I've worked under time restraints. Their mostly so the boss can hit you over the head. We screwed up the paperwork so bad they dropped the idea after about 3 months.
 
40 minutes for what? To get ready to change em.heck floor,seat etc would be longer than that before the real work commenced...
 
fordman67 said:
40 minutes for what? To get ready to change em.heck floor,seat etc would be longer than that before the real work commenced...
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Actually those are the times Ford gave their mechanics. And maybe if they were talking about with the floorboards, seats, pedal shafts and hogs head out of the way a person might be able to slip the bands around the drums. Otherwise it's at the least a 4 hour job and that's if you've been doing them every day for a long time. I think old Henry had an ulterior motive for pushing his mechanics that much. Something to do with paying them by the time/job and not by just the hour. But hey he really did build a really great car.
 
Yea I know that....it sucks but u can make some serious cash if u are good.I worked as a tech at a ford dealership for 8the years. But the economy suffered and it was just too unpredictable to raise a family on.
 
Time standards don't seem to make any sense. Especially if it's you under the gun. Some of ours were OK. Others were just nuts. So even if used as a level plain to judge all workers by it doesn't pan out if the #'s are too small and no one can hit them.
 
CharlieB said:
Time standards don't seem to make any sense. Especially if it's you under the gun. Some of ours were OK. Others were just nuts. So even if used as a level plain to judge all workers by it doesn't pan out if the #'s are too small and no one can hit them.
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And the time studies are never really done in the true work environment. Usually the engineers do the time studies and management tweaks them. It's their idea of forcing productivity. It's the part of working for somebody that I could never stand. And I have yet to see a pencil pusher develop a grasp for reality in the shop. I hate time standards and I hate the ba-tards that make them up. Now I'm mad. Where's that dog. There's the cat I'll kick that SOB. God! Give me my fricking valium!
 
Work over 30 years with flat rate, on motorcycles, the reason in so they can cut warranty time that you summit, you have to find ways to add the flat rate time up such as charge for the paper work and test drive then you still don't have enough, also most of us will time our time and do a real neat clean job making sure the paint does not get messed up
 
With removable ear bands I used to be able to do them in about 4 hours without pulling the hogshead but that is considering that I had a replacement set made up beforehand.
 
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