changing parts

[Mac_4]

So...how many of the "expert" mechanics here when their computer doesn't work just turn the power off and on instead of solving the specific software problem ?

Helpful, kind words to a new Model A owner are much more useful than just running them down because they are new to the auto world.

Marc

Hey Marc, I don't think this was aimed specifically at new Model A owners. More a general comment that a lot of people just randomly replace parts not really knowing why they're replacing them, hoping that it will solve their problem. All we're saying is before swapping out old parts for new, first diagnose the problem then you'll know what you need to replace, if anything at all. I know I've made the mistake of replacing parts before diagnosing the problem based on a "guess" and have wasted money before. I'm sure most of us have at one point or other. I think the thread is just trying to make the inexperienced person think a little before trying to fix something.
Oh, and when my computer goes wrong, I do switch it off, and generally walk away from it!
To fix software problems on a computer you'll need some education.
It's the same with fixing a car. But cars are easier and this site is about cars after all ☺

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[George Miller]

Yes it is not a slap in the face. We all had to learn at one time. But ask first and some one can help. before it gets to hard to fix over the computer. If it won't start check for a nice blue spark like Tom and others say first. Do not bother to change carb if you have a yellow spark.

 

[Patrick L.]

So...how many of the "expert" mechanics here when their computer doesn't work just turn the power off and on instead of solving the specific software problem ?

Helpful, kind words to a new Model A owner are much more useful than just running them down because they are new to the auto world.

Marc

People are run down here for asking a question ? Such accusations have been made before. I have found just the opposite.

 

[marc hildebrant]

My point is that it takes quite a bit of knowledge and experience to understand just what part of a car is causing the problem you are having.

The people that have replaced parts that "don't make sense" are new and learning about their car. As such, they need help and good info.

I have and will continue to replace the wrong part at times as I continue to learn about these wonderful old cars.

Marc

 

[Rowdy]

Lost forever is a flowchart that was posted on the old Fordbarn. I do not remember who posted it and wish now I would have made a copy of it. Maybe if someone downloaded or copied it could post it again. If not if I have time towards fall I will see if I can to a certian point make a new one in PDF with links that are in various places on the net. It will be a real challange. Rod

 

[Mac_4]

My point is that it takes quite a bit of knowledge and experience to understand just what part of a car is causing the problem you are having.

The people that have replaced parts that "don't make sense" are new and learning about their car. As such, they need help and good info.

I have and will continue to replace the wrong part at times as I continue to learn about these wonderful old cars.

Marc

That's exactly what this forum is for......to help.

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[ian Simpson]

Same goes for modern cars and the OBDII code readers when the check engine light, or some malfunction occurs. I have heard that some parts stores no longer lend out code readers because customers would use them, see an o2 code for instance, and simply replace the expensive o2 sensor expecting the problem to be fixed and then be back later because it failed again wanting their money back and upset when the cause might be a vacuum leak. You don't replace the gas gauge when it reads empty do you? Always start with the easy stuff. Is it timed correctly? do you have spark? pull the fuel line, do you have fuel flow? One thing at a time until the problem is diagnosed and solved.

After spending close to 40 years diagnosing problems with computer hardware and software used in many engineering and data processing applications, I considered myself fairly good at problem solving when it applies to our simple classic cars.

However, a few weeks back while preparing the 1928 Tudor for the season, I noted that the gas gauge read empty, making a mental note to replace the float soon, I fired it up and took a quick trip around the block. It ran very badly, missing, stalling and only just making it back into the garage. I immediately jumped to the conclusion of bad gas and started to empty the tank into a jerry can. When I got less than a quart from the tank, I realised I had neglected to fill the tank prior to winter storage.

Put in a couple of gallons of gas, the gauge now works and the car runs well. Goes to show even people with a little experience can jump to erroneous conclusions.

 

[Rowdy]

Not the one I was thinking of but works after you confirm it is not an ignition system problem. Rod