California pcv ??

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fast fredy said:
Well got my car in the garage so back at it .. Here are some photos of exactly what I have The pcv valve sucks in the filtered area othe unit . The filter seems a bit oily but I guess thats to be expected in that area . When I took the canister off , about a cup of oil ran out . I wouldn't think there should be that much acumulation there, but maybe the drain back tube is partially plugged . There was no oil leaking where the unit bolts to the block. It looks like possibly the bracket/bolt that holds the canister down onto the seal needs to be tweeked a bit so that when the canister sits down evenly on the seal the bolt hole lines up . if not the canister will have uneven sealing around the canister . I think that is where my problem lies. The pcv itself seamed a bit gummed up so I sprayed it up and seems OK now .I have some reservations about this location and proximity to oil but I imagine there would be less concern if the oil drains back like it should.I would like to keep the system for nostalga so I will give it one more kick at the can before changing it .... Fred
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This is much appreciated!

Now is the intake nipple attached to the cover pointing/drawing towards the inside of the filter element or the outside?

Were there any ID markings on the PCV valve itself?

How was the hose(s), dry?
 
It looks like the nipple draws air from around the outside of the filter. Hose did not look wet.. I didn't notice any markings on pcv , but will look closer tomorrow Fred
 
Can you show a photo of just the canister (6869) inverted with the filter (6A631) installed and the relation of the nipple to the actual filter placement?

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The Master Cylinder said:
They had factory PCV systems in 1955? I was not aware of that??
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It was not exactly factory or OEM but was a retrofit system deemed necessary in the SOCIALIST REPUBLIC of CALIFORNIA. FORD offered a kit as an accessory and there must have been aftermarket kits using FORD SERVICE PARTS.

There had to be a period TSB('s) on the system.

:p DUMB A$$ :p here, was offered by an advanced enthusiast a few years ago, to be able to access his extensive collection of DEALER SERVICE LETTERS and :p DUMB A$$ :p never took advantage of the offer. So there is much information that will be hidden from the hobby and myself.
 
Kultulz.. here are a couple photos you asked for .. It looks like the suction would be partially into the filter material .. On the valve it says AC I think the number is 534640
 

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fast fredy said:
Kultulz.. here are a couple photos you asked for .. It looks like the suction would be partially into the filter material .. On the valve it says AC I think the number is 534640
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That's what I needed to see...

The nipple has to be located within the filter media when the canister is installed on the tube. Otherwise, the draft will be drawing directly from the crankcase with no oil separator. Does that make sense?

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AC is most likely factory assembly (if the system is factory supplied).
 
fast fredy said:
Yes , but other pcv's arn't filterd to my knowledge.... this one looks like it would be partialy into the filter
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All systems are either filtered or have some type of separator/splash shield (this system's filter is actually a separator) otherwise the crankcase fumes/oil mist would be drawn into the combustion chamber(s) leading to fouling and affecting fuel octane ratings.

Somehow, the filter media will have to be stretched over the nipple opening without distorting it so that it will still seat on the tube filter flange correctly. Otherwise it will suck fumes from the crankcase, especially with this particular design (as it has most likely been doing).

FORD stopped using this design on 57 CAR and 59 TRUCK and went to the more familiar road draft tube.
 
Could you maybe rotate the wide portion of the filter around from the 2 o'clock position to the 7 o'clock position to cover the nipple? Or is it permanently attached in its current position?
 
Dobie.. it does rotate but the best I can get is to draw pretty much right on the edge of the filter material . I'm thinking about pushing some extra of that filter material in the pickup tube before the pcv valve . I dont think it would suck any pieces up.. What do you guys think ? thanks Fred
 
But you understand what I am tying to describe?

Below is an ILL of a late 5.0L EFI PCV install that has a separator under the actual valve. It is a wire mesh type filter -

Without that filter/separator, the system will draw fumes, moisture and oil into the combustion chamber(s).
 

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fast fredy said:
Dobie.. it does rotate but the best I can get is to draw pretty much right on the edge of the filter material . I'm thinking about pushing some extra of that filter material in the pickup tube before the pcv valve . I dont think it would suck any pieces up.. What do you guys think ? thanks Fred
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In that case I think I'd find some new filter material and trim it to size so that it completely covers the nipple. Use the same material or something similar. I would NOT recommend anything like steel wool, and I wouldn't stuff any of into the nipple itself. Also, as KULTULZ says, it should have a baffle to keep oil ingestion to a minimum.
 
Yes I understand the concept, just trying to make something that will work in my situation .. I will leave the filter on it for a seperator and possibly add more of the same type material that will cover the complete end of suction tube. It would be same filter media not steel wool or something that would deteriate thanks Fred
 
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