Brought Home a 22 Touring

G

Gwhaley

Member
Wasn't looking for another project, but this one was too good to pass up. Local car, bought it off the second owner.

It sat in the basement for 13 years on blocks. Owner brought it in to do some repairs, but never did them.

This is where it sat on blocks:
1922 Touring1.jpg

Had to pull it out through a set of french doors
1922 Touring 2.jpg

1922 Touring 3.jpg

Original wood and sheet metal is nice
rear body interior.jpg
 
the nice thing about restoring a T right now is that not many people are collecting them so parts are relatively cheap. We have to be careful not to sink too much money into them because the resale is not very good. Hopefully you bought to enjoy and not as an investment. Good luck, Wayne
 
You have a 1923 or later Model T. The slant windshield and one man top were introduced in the 1923 model year. If it has the original engine we can pin down the exact date of manufacture using the serial number.

Great looking project - does it run?
 
Royce is correct. 23-25. As he says, the serial number will give you the date of the engine. After ninety years a lot of T's have had an engine replacement, so other features help to determine the year of the car. A 1923 will have a low radiator (about 17" high), and a 24-25 will have the high one (about 18").
 

Attachments

  • IMG_0598 copy.jpg
    IMG_0598 copy.jpg
    76 KB · Views: 12
  • IMG_0598 copy 2.JPG
    IMG_0598 copy 2.JPG
    25.9 KB · Views: 10
Model year '23 is probably correct, but some late '22 tourings had the sloping windshields and straight backed one man tops. The front fenders do not have the fender iron lip like most '23s. As mentioned above the engine number will help if it is original. I had a '22 made the third week of Aug. '22 that had many '23 characteristics.
Beautiful find. Let us know what you find.
Congrats
 
Some time in mid 1923 the tall radiator was introduced
Also in early 1923 the metal fire wall was introduced and latter in the year it was tall and wider to go with the taller radiator. (The smaller firewall is somewhat rare as it was only produced for about a half year)
 
Very nice, only 13 years sitting, thats like a cat nap, mine ('31 town sedan) sat sleeping for 55 years, going to wake her up this week end.
Nice find...and have fun with her.
 
Great find. I think there will be bargains out there as time goes on. The problem is space to put them. Thanks for showing the pictures and such.
 
The third week of August 1922 would be in the 1923 model year, which began August 1. A car produced then would have "many '23 characteristics" because it's a 1923 model. See McCalley's Model T Encyclopedia for model years. McCalley also states "About August of 1923 the radiator was made a bit taller..." August also happens to be the start of the 1924 model year.

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG90.html
 
I must have a different issue of McCalley's book. Mine shows the '22 model year dates running from Aug. 1921 to Sept 1, 1922 and the '23 model year from Sept. of '22 to July of '23. The model years were not the same every year, there was some overlap. Anyway it was registered as a '22 model when purchased new in MN.
 
You're right, I should have looked it up. 1923 started with September 1922, and 1924 began with August 1923. I used the CD version of the encyclopedia. Yes, the model years varied a bit, and the changes in parts often were made as the old parts ran out. And because of that, changes at the dozens of assembly plants varied. It was very common for cars to be registered by calendar year and not model year, too. The more you study, the more complex it all becomes.
 
No problem Steve. Complex is very true. I have often wondered how the engine numbers were tracked with so many assembly cities making every model out there? Have you seen any info on this? Were the engines shipped pre stamped to the plants or did each plant have an allocated number to use? Kind of off topic, but thanks.
 
Steve You are 100% right from 1922 to 1924 are very complex years. I know I owen one. A 1923 it has a dash like a 24 but the steering column bracket like a 1922. The one man top irons are oval and come together at the bottom like a 1922. And work better then box type used on the late 23 on.
 
Mine is titled 23, low radiator, 1` man top, July 1922 motor number 6215334. No way to tell if that is original but it could be I guess. Still standard bore. I've had it 40 years, previous owner now dead had it since 1956
 
In the serial number section of Bruce's encyclopedia there are occasional notations that blocks of numbers were sent to the various plants to be stamped on engines made there. To complicate the detective work for us today, complete replacement engines came with serial numbers, but replacement blocks were sold unstamped and were supposed to be stamped with the number of the old block they replaced.
 
Congratulations, antique cars are a little like potato chips, you can stop with just one! I certainly did not plan things things this way but now sit with a Model T, Model A and a Model B. It just depends on how fast I want to go as to which car I use. Have fun with the T. Ed
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top