Black Wheels

Jamie,I went through the same thing several years ago.My 30 tudor had french gray wheels and whitewall tires,changed them to black wheels and blackwall tires.Took some time to get used to but I really like the simplistic look.By the way the pic of your tudor is my screen-saver.I really like the look.
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Thanks. I assume your talking about the photoshopped black wheels is your screensaver. I would be glad to email you a hi res copy if you would like. I'll also post a picture after the wheels are painted. By the way your car really looks nice with black wheels and tires.
 
So all your "Fine Point" cars have powdercoated wheels? Good for you, glad the owners and judges can't tell the differance.
When I read a statement like paint 'em (the wheels) and leave the powdercoating to patio furnature, --again, ...I can't help but chuckle. Chances are that if I or many others here were to spray coat wheels with a paint, it would likely be PPG's Concept paint. Basically this urethane paint when catalyzed with a chemical to cure the paint would be a thin layer of plastic paint possibly with a primer (i.e. Epoxy) underneath. If I were to powdercoat those same wheels, I typically use a very finely milled polyester powder that when heated to cure it, it becomes a plastic paint. Therefore, there really is no difference except the powder paint process is a little more enviro friendly because the lack of airborne solvents and its effects on the person applying it.

Now another misconception with powdercoating is the quality of the materials used. Let me put it this way, if I were looking for a quality paint job that will last a long time (good shell for chip resistance, good UV holdout, pigment purity, etc.) I would use a good quality paint such as PPG's Concept, DuPonts Chroma series, etc. What I would not do is go down to Tractor Supply and buy a gallon of their signature-series Implement Black paint for use when I wanted the characteristics of lasting a long time. Now surely you know there is a huge price difference between the $49 and the $280 dollar paint, and the same applies between the quality of powder paints out there. Common sense should prevail that we cannot paint a wheel for $25 each if we are going to use the $280 a gallon paint! That same mindset applies to shops that offer bargain pricing on powder painting wheels. You get what you pay for and if the bargain pricing is a value to you, then that is OK but please don't complain about flow-out and durability of powdercoating.
 
JCrosson,

I don't think anyone Model A afficiando / expert will ever give you grief for having Black wheels on a '28-'29 Ford.

If you're ever going to be having your car judged at a Model A event, you have no choice. Black or major deduction.

If having your Tudor judged is not part of your plan, I'd say it's your choice and your money - get the best possible job you can.

Good luck !

SC Frank
 
I just painted mine black a little over a year ago with a rattle can.

I was thinking this way i could change color if i wanted to, but for now i like black, Im not into judging, just driving around and blowing my Ahooga horn at people that wave.
 

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Back in the 60's a couple of us sailors on a saturday morning painted the wheels on my 32 fordor sedan in the barracks parking lot at the newport, RI OCS, Couple cases of beer, brushes and red (car was black) rustoleum. Considering everything it came out pretty good.
Paul in CT
 
As far as Powdercoating vs. paint, it's all personal preference. Alot of folks have a hard on for everything being powdercoated which is OK, that's their choice. I prefer paint, and that's my preference.

I've had many parts powdercoated at the request of customers by several companies and at the end, it still looks like melted plastic. There are some people who can tell the difference.
 
I love the "perfect" look of our '31 Deluxe Roadster with her Tocama Cream wheels and whitewalls. Like the consensus seems to be here - it all depends on the year and body style of the car - and personal taste. The "sportier" Deluxes and open cars just look neater with colored wheels (to match the pin striping) and whitewalls IMO.
 
I noticed that the majority of the Stock '28-'29 Fords that I have seen at AACA Hershey and Macungie over the last two years have NOT had black wheels.

I know how they are "supposed to be", just observing that not every A owner sticks to the black wheels rule...

I agree with Earle that the '31 Deluxe Roadster looks stunning with the cream wheels & stripe and light top setting-off the Washington Blue body /Black fenders & aprons... one of the nicest color combos I've seen on a Model A , in my modest opinion.
 
One of the first thing I did to my car was take the ugly baby blue wheels down and have them powder coated gloss black! Love them! I would never go back! Blackwall tires too!
 
I like your black wheels.
On my original faded black coupe I painted the wheels flat black rather than gloss black to match the condition of my cars finish.
 
PAINT THEM THE COLOR YOU WANT!!!!!

If you try to please others, you will wind up frustrated and it may not really be the way you want your car to look. :(

If you are going to have the car judged, paint the wheels the correct color for the year and color combination, or put up with loosing points.:eek:

If you want to drive and enjoy your car, paint the wheels a color you like.

If someone has a different opinion about what color your wheels should have been, tell them your name is on the title so that gives you the authorization to paint them the color they are.:p

NOW FOR MY OPINION, FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH (which is not much),:rolleyes:

I am just finishing up a standard '30 Tudor and I have Powdercoated BLACK wheels with BLACK WALL tires. Personally, I like the way this looks.

I also have a '31 Deluxe Roadster with Tacoma Cream Wheels (which I like on this car) with WHITE WALL Tires (which I could do without but that is the way I bought it).:o

Again, it all comes down to personal preference, as it should be.
Enjoy your BLACK WHEELS,:)

Chris
 
PAINT THEM THE COLOR YOU WANT!!!!!


My mind was made up long before posting on here. Black it's gonna be... I'm to the point in life that I am gonna build my A the way I want it. I'm even going to wood grain the dash rail and garnish moulding, but I would never do anything to the car that cannot be reversed back to original.
 
I think on your car black and black look good. I had my wheels powdercoated black. I painted the drums with some of that "tractor" paint. Wish I had used a better paint on the drums because they are starting to chip off but the wheels are still looking great. Yes they are black and dirt does get on them but it is not that hard to wipe it off.
 
My mind was made up long before posting on here. Black it's gonna be... I'm to the point in life that I am gonna build my A the way I want it. I'm even going to wood grain the dash rail and garnish moulding, but I would never do anything to the car that cannot be reversed back to original.

I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM!!! After having my mind made up, my 5 yr old daughter told me tonight "Daddy, I like the wheels red on you Bad Guy Car. Don't paint them black." There is no one that could talk me out of this decision except her or her sister. UGH I'm in a tough position. I want them Black and she wants them red. I guess I could paint 2 black and 2 red. The spare could be half and half.
 
So all your "Fine Point" cars have powdercoated wheels? Good for you, glad the owners and judges can't tell the differance.

Ironically, ...2 out of the 4 cars that were done in my shop and entered into fine-point competition last summer did have powdercoated wheels that were coated by us in-house. I don't really know how long Orange County Choppers has been "coning" powdercoating but I purchased my first powdercoating machine back in 2003 for use in restorations. As for whether these car owners knew, ...they did. As for whether the Judges knew, ...either they didn't know, --or didn't care! Maybe it was because the finish was just as slick as dipped enamel.

I think the true bottom line is facts need to be told accurately, ...and when someone is paying the bill and knows the truth, then they can choose the way that they deem best. For them it was powder, --and for you it will be paint.

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Black is the only way to go for your year of car. Any other color for a 28/29 vehicle and poor old Henry would turn in his grave.

In Australia, the 1929 A's had 25 different colour schemes available, 11 of these had non-black wheels. So I don't think Henry would turn too far, if at all.
 
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