Brent. You are spot on. The reason why I "checked out" was precisely that, as you have noted, I asked for specific advice regarding these two vehicles. For those who took the time to read my question and respond accordingly, my thanks. As soon as the responses turned to a "you better buy a Ford" etc. etc., I felt the time for helpful input had ended. At no time did I specifically say that these were the only vehicles I was considering. On the contrary, I did note that I was looking at these two,, plus,,, others including Fords. My decision will be made based on what I determine is best for me in my situation,,, not just based on the logo on the truck. I have nothing bad to say about Ford. Indeed, I am actively working with my local Ford dealer as we speak. That being said, I again repeat that my decision will be made based on what I determine is best for me, period. I would have no compunction to drive up to a meet with a "non Ford" product. For those who would choose to cross the street with their noses held in the air,,, that is your choice. The biggest problem I have with a lot of these forums is the propensity of too many to demonstrate a holier than though attitude towards those with whom they disagree. This is not how I treat others and I have not time for those who do. Now,,, let the debate continue.....