I was here then and still am ?? I was wondering who is this Shelley that everone is so in love with, then I found she was selling calinders ?? did not buy on big boo-boo, then saw pictures of em so next year bought two, one for my son. so the next year it was lat , so I called, and talked to the Shelley... when I gave her my name, she started laughing, and said your the one that's in the tussel ( bidding war ) over the cam, to support the barn, with JM 35 sedan ... you guys are " HILARIOUS " and John was sure we would get kicked off the barn, no we keep it clean no, four letter words, I came up with "My clicker finger is faster than yours,"" so John started mis-spelling some of my words... so some one else bought the cam, and it went to a club for a money raiser.?? ...SO I WAS THERE THEN... and still here on the new barn, and boy do I learn so new stuff all the time, and offer some too. .... thanks for asking ...... OLD.....BILL ... ( 82 this month ) August 28