AM modulator?

Fibber Mcgee

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Anyone ever hear of an AM modulator or maybe some other way to play an ipod thru an AM radio.I got my radio fixed(for free)and now realized there is nothing to listen to on AM,I dont want to change radios but I can only take so much spanish music.
 
yes i have heard of a thing like that. try goggle type in vintage car radios or you can try evelbay. oh just a norther thought, maby go to a good stereo shop that sells stereos for cars maby they can help.
 
Get a Garmin 7200 or a later modle GPS. This will run on 6 volts if you reverse the polarity on the power plug or work better with a small $60.00 6 to 12 volt converter. The Garman can store loads of music or as an extra you can get an antenna and subscribe to Sirios radio. This unit can be moved just by one wing nut and the lighter plug. It has built in speakers with good quality sound. G.M.
 
I never new GPS would do that ,I'll check into it.I wonder why someone doesn't make a imput that would go inline with the antena,maybe I am looking at it wrong but it looks like there would be a way to do that.
 
I had thought that the gadget would only play through FM stations. I bought one for my IPod and it seemed to work OK. Faded in and out as we lost some of the in between stations. Or is this something else your talking about?
 
I never new GPS would do that ,I'll check into it.I wonder why someone doesn't make a imput that would go inline with the antena,maybe I am looking at it wrong but it looks like there would be a way to do that.

They used to make FM receivers that would go inline with the antenna, and they still show up on eBay. However, if you have the style of radio that doesn't have an antenna cable and the antenna attaches directly to the top of the radio (e.g., '40-'41), I'm not sure how you could use it.
 
Anyone ever hear of an AM modulator or maybe some other way to play an ipod thru an AM radio.

I wanted to do what you want to do. Here is what I did.

First I bought an AM transmitter and hooked it up to my player to see if I could play it through the AM radio. I was sadly disappointed because the antennae on the outside of the car would not clearly pick up the AM signal from the transmitter anywhere inside the car, probably because of the metal car body blocking the signal. I would get some signal of different strengths depending on the position of the transmitter and its antennae but it was always staticy. Since I couldn't play through the AM radio I decided I would at least play through the AM speaker. That could be done several different ways. One way would be to convert the whole car to 12 volt and install a modern player of some type. I didn't want to convert the car to 12 volt since I'm keeping it totally stock. I could buy a 6 to 12 volt converter to run such a player but didn't want to install such player nor have it just loose in the car somewhere. So, here's what I did to get anything I wanted to play through the old AM radio speaker, including the AM radio, without changing or converting voltage nor installing any modern player.

I first tried just plugging the speaker into the player's headphone jack. A little sound came out of the speaker but not enough. So, I bought the most powerful portable small headphone amp that ran on its own internal 9 volt battery. I plugged it into the player headphone jack and plugged the speaker wire into the amp output. It worked great and was plenty loud and sounded great. I then installed a micro double throw double terminal switch in the top of my glove box that can't be seen except from the floor and connected the speaker wires to the center common terminal of the switch and the radio wires to one side and the wire from the headphone amp output to the other side. Then I could switch my speaker between the two sources. Then I put it all in the glove box, hooked up my player, and it worked great. Except for one thing. The small 9 volt standard size battery in the headphone amp only played the speaker for about an hour before going dead. So, I built a 9 volt battery pack out of 6 D batteries in a holder from Radio Shack and run the amp off of that. That battery pack lasts a year or two. Because the signal from the player and amp are stereo but the one old AM speaker is not, I plug a combining adapter into the amp output to combine the two signals and the monaral wire from the speaker switch into that. That way I get all of the power of both sides of the amp as well as the sound of both tracks of music all coming out of the speaker.

Now I can play anything I want through the AM radio speaker including the AM radio itself (we have a couple of great Oldies AM stations in our area). And, if I want to remove all trace of the sound system I just pull it out of the glove box, unplug it from the wire to the switch, and push that wire through the hole in the glove box.

At car shows I play Glen Miller and other 40's music all day through the AM radio speaker to add "atmosphere" that everyone enjoys. Some warn me that running the radio all day is going to kill my battery and are shocked when I tell them it's not running off the battery.

I'm away from home for the weekend so can't add photos and diagrams of my setup nor links to the transmitter and amp if you want to try this. When I get home Monday I'll add the photos and links.
 
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Old Henry I'd appreciate that ,that sounds like what I need .That way I don't have to do any major modifications. 4dFord/SC I forgot to mention at some point someone put a plug for an external antenna on the bottom of my radio.
 
I put an AM FM in my 39 case and had problems with receiving FM. I wound about 25 or 30 turns of magnet wire around the internal FM antenna and hooked the loose end to the wire to the AM antenna and it works fine. G.M.
 
I invested in the redi-rad and had less than desirable results. Leave it at that. I should have pursued it more but the problem was intermittent and I did not. Now I just use a portable iPod player. As well as old music I managed to download some old radio programs. The only problem is that it needs to be set up with a large playlist before driving. Too distracting to operate and drive at the same time.
 
You're going to get this a little piecemeal because "Old Henry" is still at the body shop recovering from the dually attack so can't show the whole set up until tomorrow but here are the components described earlier.

Here is the headphone amp that works great in my set up. It boosts the normal output of Ipods and other handheld devices from 5-20mW of power to 375mW per channel (8-ohms). It's plenty for the old stock AM radio speaker.
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Available here: http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-HBA-2

Here's the Radio Shack battery holder I used (1 1/2 of them) to make the 9 volt battery pack out of 6 D batteries.
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Available here: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062245

This is the 9 volt battery clip that I wired to the D battery pack in reverse polarity to plug onto the same connector wired to the headphone amp.

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Available here: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062219#

This is the stereo to mono adapter used to combine the stereo signal coming out of the headphone amp to mono for the speaker.
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Available here: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102690#

Here's the mono plug installed at one end of the pair of wire that goes to one side of the selector switch and is pluged into the combiner adapter above.
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Available here: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062452

Here's the switch used to switch the speaker between the two sound sources:
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Available here: http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062505#
 
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I just use a portable iPod player. The only problem is that it needs to be set up with a large playlist before driving. Too distracting to operate and drive at the same time.

I don't use an Ipod but, rather, a portable CD player that will just play the CD continuously. One button operation. Start. Stop.
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Here's my setup:

What it looks like with the glove box door open:
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The cardboard that keeps it in place instead of just loose:
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The components connected together. I forgot that I use an adapter wire that combines stereo to mono rather than the plug adapter. I thought I got that from Radio Shack but don't see it in their online site. The adapter plug works the same. You will also see the noise reducing coils on all of the wires. Even though the system is not connected to the car at all, it still sometimes picked up the spark plugs. Got those from Radio Shack too but don't see them on their site. You can't quite see the two 9 volt battery clips that are mated in the 69 manner to power the amp.
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The ceiling of the glove box showing the speaker switch on the left and the switch to turn on the three small 6 volt bulbs in the middle at night to see the system. (You can only see one of the three bulbs. They do run off of the car battery. Also available at radio shack.)
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Ryan has also done a very informative article on how he installed an iPod into his car, I think I saw it on the Hamb. I was impressed with the elegance and simplicity of his adaption.
 
When I was a kid I took old radios and hooked up an input jack to the volume control. This is where the radio is split between the output of the radio section and the input to the amplifier. As I recall, the volume control has 3 connections. One to ground, one from the radio section and one to the amp.
If you hook up a miniature (3.5 mm? input jack compatible with your headphone output, center terminal to the input terminal on the volume control (replacing the radio input) and the other side to ground, it should work. Use shielded wire. Mount the 3.5 mm input jack somewhere inconspicuous and plug your ipod or CD player output into that.

To keep the radio working when you are not using an ipod or CD player or other device, you use can either install a switch to go from radio to the jack, wired as described in the discussion about the speaker switch in the glovebox earlier in the thread) or one of those little 3.5 mm inout jacks that will cut off a circuit when you plug into it. Keep everything shielded or you may get some hum. I plan to do this on my 48 DeSoto radio (no radio in the Ford) when I get some time. It used to work great and I could convert any old rummage sale radio to become a phonograph player.
 
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