as most of you know im usually down on the fine points posts, its not the fine points cars i dislike, i love a beautifully restored car, its with some of the owners where the problem starts, they are the ones who come over to a beautiful home restored car and say why did you do that? thats wrong, you should do it like this, your an idiot, im smarter than you my car is a lot better than yours, then they go over and stand beside there taped off car and say keep the hell away from it, even you fine points guys know what i mean, they are at every show, thats not what is needed in this hobby to get younger people involved, we need more of the home restorers, the ones who welcome the people to come over to there cars, open the hood for them, open the car doors and let them sit behind the wheel and have there pictures taken, those are the type that will grow this hobby, AND Fred i thought your fire hydrant remark was hilarious, so you fine points guys can take this as a kind of apology for some of my posts,