9n ohv 4 cyl > model-a pu. ? possible

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hogrider

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Have a 29 pu . would a FORD 4 cyl ohv tractor or pony mtr work instead of thousands of dollars to modify a model -a eng. ? Mr cheap!
 
If your lookin for a good, cheap replacement motor pinto engines fit really nice. You can use a model a transmition but it's better to use a '39. there's some conversion kits made out in California, that will run a couple hundred bux if your goin all out meaning the un needed items like aluminum fly wheel. But u can pick up a pinto for about 250-300 bux on a good day. Of course that's un rebuilt. After you get it put together it some what sounds like a model a if you use the stock muffler, and you can run down the highway at 65 mph all day up hill.
 
The 2.3 4 cly. (pinto engine) was used until somewhat recently in Ranger pickups. There should still be some of them around.
 
hogrider said:
Have a 29 pu . would a FORD 4 cyl ohv tractor or pony mtr work instead of thousands of dollars to modify a model -a eng. ? Mr cheap!
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Don't know why you would want to do that when you can buy a fresh Model A motor from me for the same money or less as a pinto motor conversion.
 
forever4 said:
Seriously?
Pintos have been extinct for more than two decades.
Scrap prices in recent years have caused scrapyards to be vacuumed out a couple of times (for China) of everything that can really be bought.

I have not actually seen a Pinto car or engine, dead or alive, in about 25 years, so I am wondering where you can buy Pinto engines cheap?

This sounds like a good thread for the HAMB, not fordbarn.
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Yes seriously. Whats it matter if pintos have been extict for 2 decades, model a's have been extict for 80 years? You can still find pinto engines, but it isnt going to be as easy as going to your neighbors house and picking one up. Craigslist, which is in almost every major city, is a great place to find them. And idk about the whole china thing, theres still plenty of junk yards around here probably 10 within a 25 minute drive. As money goes, you can get a pinto engine, go threw everything and replace whats needed for about a 1000 dollars with the conversion, as long as the engine is in decent shape meaning no cracks, and good bearings. I know this because a friend just built one to drive from texas to alaska, to canada, and back. And it maynot be perticularly a model a era engine, but enough people use them now days, that it will show up more on fordbarn rather than HAMB.
 
Just a thought but the 2n, 8n, 9n tractor motors are smaller, around 120 or 130 I think.
Also distributor is side dride off the cam gear not straight up thru the head like The A.

Good luck... I won't mention what I plan on using in my Sedan... But it Helped win WWII...GO-Devil!!!

Jeff
 
Pinto mills are dry here (Chicago) and Milwaukee, 3 cars for sale thou. Currently, Fleece-bay has nuthin' but bits.

GW
 
Actually 2.3 Pinto engines are quite plentiful.
They are very popular in one of the econo entry
stock car racing classes.
Taking a stock engine it takes about 10 minutes with a small file to gain 10 hp. A very cheap engine to do a mild hop up on.
It definetly does not sound like a model A though.
 
In 1941 (I think) some Ford pickups had the tractor engine. It was the replacement economy engine for the V8-60. I've seen discussions on these on the V8 forum where people say they won't pull a sick cat off a piss-pot. It's about equal in displacement and power to a Model T.
 
ddweave said:
Hmmm. I wonder how hard it would be to put a Model A engine in a 9N Ford tractor?
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Although, it was two steps after of the "A" engine, The 9N was a smaller and less powerful engine (119 cu" vs 200 cu" and 25 HP vs 40hp)
Having owned a 8N and being less than impressed with it, the hp upgrade would be welcome. But I think it would be more work than the results would be worth. If you want a more powerful tractor, buy a Int. "H" or "M". I loved my H and I could work a JD mod 30 combine with it. The Ford is a good mowing tractor (Providing the grass is dry) but I found it highly overated.
Terry
 
I never knew the 4 cyl truck version had 40 HP.Driving one feels like a worn out six.There is one near me with no miles on it,the son of the original owner has it.His dad bought it new,thinking of economy,but he could never carry much in it.For the last 40 years or so the son has planned to buy a rusty truck with a V8 in it and do a changeover,they used to be plentiful,but he missed the boat on that.Now he feels it is too rare to do that too,and I agree with him.There are a lot of those trucks around here with the flathead six in them.We must have had a local dealer that pushed them hard.The flathead V8 in the Ford tractor was not exactly common,as it was not cheap,but there are a few around.The conversion was made by Funk.Very nicely done conversion.While the N series tractor was underpowered,it had enough to do what it was supposed to do.With the Funk conversion you had the power,but were limited by the size of the tractor.They just weren't heavy enough to to take advantage of the extra power for field work.There is one about 30 miles from me that has been on the same farm since new.It is mostly used now to run the sawmill.The owner said before he restored it most of the time it was left out in the weather.The spark plugs would rust in and break,and the manifolds would rust,break,and fall off.It doesn't get that kind of treatment any more.He used to take it to tractor and one-lunger engine shows,but I have not seen it in a couple of years now.There is another one that the owner uses it a couple of times a year just to bush hog with.That is a job where the extra HP really works well.He has three pipes on each side,right off the block,sticking straight up like the old dragsters.It sits in the garage the rest of the year with six coffee cans on the exhaust pipes.
 
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