40 ford ign key

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motorhead748

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I`m working on a 40 sedan for a friend. The ignition key is broke off in the switch. That is not really a problem. What I need to know is how can I get a new key cut? And what should I do to unlock the column so I can steer the car in the meantime?
 
No problem as long as you know the key code. Key can be cut by the code.

Or, if getting the old key out is no problem, most any hardware store can cut a new key as long as they have the business end of the old one to go by

Only other thing is remove the door lock and get the code off of that lock. The two are keyed together. Big job to remove the locking assembly on the column.

Good luck.
 
Lawson Cox said:
No problem as long as you know the key code. Key can be cut by the code.

Or, if getting the old key out is no problem, most any hardware store can cut a new key as long as they have the business end of the old one to go by

Only other thing is remove the door lock and get the code off of that lock. The two are keyed together. Big job to remove the locking assembly on the column.

Good luck.
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Im not too sure that the broken key is the correct key. I will look at the door lock.
 
motorhead748 said:
Im not too sure that the broken key is the correct key. I will look at the door lock.
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The '40 is not the worst one amoung the pre '48 locking column. Probably Mac Van Pelt that has the lock pulling article on his site where he pulls the pin with a #6 screw bored to tap size(36) etc. works on pre '35 tiny pin columns, but must be more accurate. I used a small claw hammer to pull the pin. The reason for the key break may be the wrong one. Cheapest test is a key cut from the stub first. Have Fun! Fred A
 
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Pull the door lock and get the code. Then PM 32phil. He is an expert at cutting the correct key from a code. Then, if you are good at drilling/tapping, drill out the locking pin with a tap drill for a #8 screw and pull it as mentioned with a small claw. Then, as I remember the plug hole is the right size for a standard size tap (I will check in the morning-maybe 1/4-28) then I screwed in a cut off bolt to lock in the cylinder.
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Now, if I lose my key, I just unscrew the bolt and the locking cylinder will pull right out and I am good to go. Now, if any car thieves are reading this post, I am in trouble.
John
 
Many times keys are broken off because they are worn or incorrect to start with. Or problems with the locking mechanism itself will cause rough operation and undo stress on the key causing it to break off. If you can remove the broken piece and get the code off the door lock you may be OK. In my experience you will need to take the cylinder out as oldford2( Thank You John, for the compliment) described then use that code to cut the new key. Sometimes the door lock has been changed and will not be the same as the ignition cylinder. You can call me and I will walk you through the process to remove the lock cylinder or help you with any questions. You may be able to get a key cut locally. If not, I can help you with that as well. I have cut keys by "reading" the broken piece, risky business, because with out the code # I never know if I am making the wrong key until I try it and it does'nt work. Then I have to take the lock out like I should have in the first place.
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oldford2 said:
Pull the door lock and get the code. Then PM 32phil. He is an expert at cutting the correct key from a code. Then, if you are good at drilling/tapping, drill out the locking pin with a tap drill for a #8 screw and pull it as mentioned with a small claw. Then, as I remember the plug hole is the right size for a standard size tap (I will check in the morning-maybe 1/4-28) then I screwed in a cut off bolt to lock in the cylinder.
IMG_0742.jpg

Now, if I lose my key, I just unscrew the bolt and the locking cylinder will pull right out and I am good to go. Now, if any car thieves are reading this post, I am in trouble.
John
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I used a stainless set screw I had..........I figured most people don't carry and allen set :).
 
Or, if you have drilled and tapped the locking plug to remove it. Just remove the screw and re-use the plug. Then it is ready for the next extraction.. John

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