'40 center driveshaft bearing

sjaakslinger

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We're at the point of installing a new center driveshaft bearing on a '40. Trying to get a tool together to install it.

Is it correct though that the grease fitting should protrude into the hole in the rubber from the bearing? Something about the thread holding the bearing in place? That would be hard, since the thread doesn't seem long enough.[emoji848]

Any pointers would be great. Thanks.

Dennis
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My experience with the center bearing is to align the bearing with the hole in the torque tube and use a long thread rod and washers to pull the bearing into place. I believe the rubber mount will hold the bearing in place and the grease fitting does not hold it at all.

My first try to install the bearing involved a long piece of pipe and try to hammer it in place. Well, that DOES NOT WORK! The rubber only rebounds my attempt and the threaded rod and washers is the only way I could make it happen.
 
Thanks. Yeah, we were thinking the same. Making some tool with a large thread and washers and stuff.

I suppose the bearing would just stay in place after getting it there...

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If you go to my photo albums, in the MISC folder, Page 2, photos 14, 15 and 16 are pictures of my KRW tool that removes and installs the center bearing. You sight down the outside and make the arrow line up with the hole the grease fitting screws into. The notch in the part that pulls the bearing in (or out) also gets lined up with the grease fitting hole and has a notch that doesn't allow the rubber part to rotate. It pulls the bearing and rubber doughnut all at once. When you see the hole in the rubber through the torque tube hole you are done installing, screw in the zerk, after removing the tool and installing the driveshaft then grease the fitting.
 
That threaded grease fitting does not hold the bearing in place. I replaced my 40 center bearing about 10 years ago using a home made device. Do a "Install Center Bearing search on Fordbarn and you will find lots of good info. The bearing is held in place by a sheet metal collar that is spot welded to the inside of the torque tube. You line the bearing grease hole up with the grease fitting hole in the torque tube and pull the bearing into the collar using the special tool. I used a piece of string to guide the bearing in a straight line . The rubber around the bearing seats inside the collar.
Glad you found an OEM bearing as they are rare and expensive in the USA. This thread explains how I installed the bearing with pictures.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217297&highlight=install+center+bearing

While you have your torque tube out replace other bearings and parts as it's a lot of work to take it apart twice.
 

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Just a thought… a small amount of white or yellow paint in the groove before installation might make it easier to see thru the lube fitting hole to tell that the bearing has been installed to the right depth and orientation.
 
I rebuilt my drivetrain everything new between the clutch and the road tires ... Everything except the torque tube center bearing. I farmed that out to a local v8 builder because I heard it needed a special tool I didn't have. I dropped it off at the shop and when I got back home, my wife told me I had a phone message: "Your torque tube is done, come pick it up."
...Damn it, I should'a done it myself 'cause now I get stupid looks instead of good job bragging rights.
 
That threaded grease fitting does not hold the bearing in place. I replaced my 40 center bearing about 10 years ago using a home made device. Do a "Install Center Bearing search on Fordbarn and you will find lots of good info. The bearing is held in place by a sheet metal collar that is spot welded to the inside of the torque tube. You line the bearing grease hole up with the grease fitting hole in the torque tube and pull the bearing into the collar using the special tool. I used a piece of string to guide the bearing in a straight line . The rubber around the bearing seats inside the collar.
Glad you found an OEM bearing as they are rare and expensive in the USA. This thread explains how I installed the bearing with pictures.
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217297&highlight=install+center+bearing

While you have your torque tube out replace other bearings and parts as it's a lot of work to take it apart twice.
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Thanks a lot guys...great info! We're gonna give it a try.

Yeah, finding a NOS bearing was like finding a treasure.[emoji51]

Dennis

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I bought my replacement bearing from Skip Hanley and have attached slightly modified instructions that he sent with the new bearing.

1937-1948 CENTER DRIVE SHAFT BEARING REMOVAL AND INSTALLATION

1- Remove speedometer drive gears, bearings, bearing split race and bearing seal. The bearing seal may be difficult to remove form the transmission end. Heating the torque tube locally with a heat gun and driving it out from the rear end with a 1”NPS pipe or the driveshaft being careful to locate it on the seal and NOT on the torque tube seal retainer may be necessary.
2- Remove torque tube to rear bolts. Slide torque tube off drive shaft.
3-Stand torque tube up with rear bolt flange down.
4- Remove center grease fitting.
5- lnsert a 42" length of 1-1/2" steel pipe down through transmission end of torque tube. Make sure it is centered on old bearing and drive out. with a large hammer. There is a metal flange down there you will hit if not centered.

The pipe size of 1-1/2” NPS is too large. It will not go past the four nubs that provide stops for the front axle grease seal

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I bought a 1-1/4” pipe plug, ground the plug corners, inserted it into a 1” NPS pipe for the tool and duct taped it in place. It worked well.

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My existing center bearing’s rubber was still fairly solid such that even with large hammers, it was reluctant to move. I ended up applying heat with a gun around the exterior of the torque tube for three minutes or so. Hitting the pipe/pipe plug with a sledge hammer quickly drove the old bearing out.
6- Clean inside torque tube and examine with a flash light for any rubber or dirt.
7- Apply grease from rear end with an old broom handle to bearing area.
8- Insert alignment pin in grease fitting hole.
9- Slide new bearing assembly on drive shaft. If too tight file shaft to fit. It wants to slide on with very little effort, yet not be too loose.
I measured the drive shaft at 1.100 and had to remove about .003” before the sleeve would slip on snugly.

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10- Clean inside of new bearing sleeve and apply a THIN coat of original J.B. Weld (NOT the fast hardening type) inside the sleeve and on the center bearing surface of the drive shaft. Grease the O.D. of the rubber.
11- Clean broom handle and slide new bearing assembly on broom handle with the white line facing down. With the torque tube standing up with the transmission end down, slide the bearing assembly into the torque with the white line on the side of the grease hole in the torque tube.
12- Lay torque tube on a set of saw horses and with a flash light look in from transmission end. Align white line on end of bearing with the alignment to pin in grease hole.

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13- Stand torque tube up on transmission end. REMOVE ALIGNMENT PIN and broom handle.
14- Take a 36" length of 2" plastic pipe with a coupling on one end and insert the coupling end down in the torque tube. Center on bearing and with a block of wood and a heavy hammer drive the bearing in until it seats. Carefully watch the white line through the grease hole so the hole in the tube aligns with the hole in the rubber.
I applied heat to the exterior as I had when removing the old bearing. This made insertion easier.
15- Insert drive shaft into torque tube through the new bearing assembly and bolt up the rear.
16- Install grease fitting and grease.
 
Glenn makes an excellent point. I think Bruce stopped making that seal. Perhaps if enough folks asked him to start remaking it, he would would. In 2017 it cost $100 and is well worth it.
 

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Actually there are two different KRW tools for this purpose. One is used to remove the bearing and the other is used to install the new one. They are similar but different lengh shafts and work like a charm! I recently sold mine and hope I never need them again.
 
Larry, I hope the person you sold it to reads the Fordbarn and might be willing to loan out (with a big deposit) the tool you sold.
 
Yes Larry, I have both shafts. I don't loan this out but will gladly remove and install a bearing for someone locally whether they are in the Ford Club or not. Having the NOS bearing is the hardest part of the operation. I only had 2 NOS bearings and used them on my 2 40s.
Mike
 
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