'36 Patch Panels?

[TagMan]

I've been searching for repair sections for the rear fenders on my '36 coupe. EMS lists the lower front section of the rear fender and Early Ford V8 online catalog lists the front repair section for rear fenders. Neither site has any pics or measurements. Can anyone tell me if these vendors parts are good quality and how far up the fender they go? How well do they fit?

Are there any other vendors out there I should be checking out? So far I looked at Bob Drake, C&G, Midwest Early Ford, Macs, EMS & Early Ford V8.

Thanks for any help you can give. I'm still learning my way around the early Fords
-Bob

 

[Tom Morookian]

I used the EMS patches on my 36. They worke out fine. the critical issue is getting them the proper length to match the running boards. before you cut off the rotted section I suggest you pop rivet them on and test the length before welding. I think the panels are aqbout 10 inches tall.

I have a template for the bolt edge around the body if yours is a problem.
I'll make a copy for $10 to cover materials and shipping.

If the rolled edge is a problem contact Michael@MichaelKianka.com he hand makes patches for that - pretty damn good too. I have 2 of his panels that I'm not going to use. If you need them I'll sell them for $25 each plus boxing and shipping. Say $35 for 1 or $60 for 2.

 

[Uncle Bob]

There's probably no way to comment on this without getting somebody's nose out of joint but I'll give it my best shot.

For the most part I like what EMS does. They have a representative on here who is active and helpful. Many of their parts are a valuable aid to our hobby and I'm glad they do what they do. Now, the BUT that's obvious in that buildup. I've used most of their patch panels for the bottom of a '36. The tail panel for coupe/roadster is impressive in it's fit. The bottoms of the quarters are pretty good, as are the bottoms of the cowl. As for the fender sections you're asking about I can't show much enthusiasm. You can use the search function and you'll find a pretty thorough discussion of this, including comments from EMS. Since some share my lack of enthusiasm for this part and some don't I'd say it depends on how good of an eye you have, and how particular you are. I've had two sets of those fender patches and both were equally as bad. The don't have the "crispness" of form that the originals do, sort of like the Pillsbury doughboy look. You can cut and reshape, but if you've got that skill you can probably form your own or save what you've got. Like I said, it depends on your eye. The vast majority of people out there that just walk by the car would probably never notice the poor shape, but if it matters to you and you have the eye to see it, that particular part isn't suitable without a LOT of work. To my knowledge nobody else offers these pieces, though some may not disclose they get them from EMS. I would qualify my remarks that my experience with these was about 10 years ago. If they'v made a change in their tooling to improve them then it might be a different story.

 

[ems customer service]

thanks to everyone who has commented on our parts!

after looking at your photo.

i hope and suggust that you bolt the fender to the car before any final welding!!!!!! with the running boards on the car, they all have to fit together. and the inner fender braces do help in keeping the fender in shape.

your doing a lot of welding on those fender it will affect the shape some.

i do not like the way the panel is attached to the fender, could be the angle of the photo could not be.

the ems guy

 

[Uncle Bob]

Light, angle, and color make it difficult to capture precise differences but here's as close as I can come to matching what Tom's picture shows for comparison. Again, depending on one's eye, you'll see what you see.

 

[TagMan]

Thanks for the comments, all, they're appreciated. I guess I'll take a chance with the EMS patch and hope for the best.

Tom, thanks for the offer, but the bolt hole edge on mine is in great shape. I was going to make a sedan fender into the missing coupe one, but I scored a pretty decent '36 coupe rear fender over this past weekend that only needs the rear edge replaced. The rolled edge is no problem either, but thanks for the offer.
-Bob

 

[richbud37811]

Ten years ago i built my first 36 used all the EMS parts that they made and i agree the hardest part to get rite was the rear fender .Just my humble thought after all it was my first car.

 

[Straightpipes]

I did one years ago and the only way to do it is to assemble everything including the running board and then form the patch to fit. Either homemade , EMS or whatever.

I'd like to know a little about the "early" 35 rear fenders that I hear were "different" in the front running board area.

 

[jfcrash]

Straightpipes,

Research a posting back in May...."1936 Fender Patch Panels", the discussions is similar this post......response #11 is from the ems guy and breifly mentions that the difference is not at the running board but at the patch radius into the wheel opening...

hopes this helps, jim

 

[Straightpipes]

Straightpipes,

Research a posting back in May...."1936 Fender Patch Panels", the discussions is similar this post......response #11 is from the ems guy and breifly mentions that the difference is not at the running board but at the patch radius into the wheel opening...

hopes this helps, jim

Thanks Jim......

 

[uncle buck]

You might try this guy "Please feel free to call & discuss your sheet metal needs 8:00 am to 6:00 pm 425 433 0294 thank you Danny. " as taken from my local craigslist. He is the guy that was making complete new fenders on ebay and has a love for 1936 Fords. I am sure in todays economy he would be more than happy to sell just the front patch panel.When I took a metal shaping class at his shop a few years ago, he had many different pieces made for the rear fenders. He is also known as " carbuilder " over on the H.A.M.B. if you want to check out some of his work.

 

[TagMan]

Thanks, uncle buck !