36 Ford drag link orientation question

Tom-MI said:
This is an old swap item. I have never done it but I torn down a '46 Ford two years ago for parts that had an 8BA engine in it. It had the early pan for steering clearance. I sold the pan(and pump), a month ago for $50 bucks to a guy who was going to use it on a '35 he was putting a '53 Mercury engine into. They are still out there. A quick check on the web found two (kinda pricey). The part numbers you should look for are: 8CM6675C or 8CM6675D. The oil pump is: 8CM6600B, the oil screen is 8CM6615.

Hope this helps.

Tom
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I just did a search on all of the numbers and found nothing at all for sale? Could you post a link?
 
Can anybody remind me what is the purpose of the angle bracket bolted onto the rear of this '49 Merc pan? It's been so long that I just don't remember. DD


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Hi DD,

I think it is to provide additional stiffness and support of the starter plate/flywheel cover, but the starter is well supported anyway with the through bolts. Seems like you could run without the bracket. Maybe a few starts by a helper while you're looking at the starter and plate.

Vanpelts page on this is good:

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_trans-adapters.htm

Glenn
 
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Extra strengthening brackets like that are often used for "anti beaming". It is to brace the lower edge of the transmission bell to the motor, increasing the beam strength of the whole unit. It is normally to improve NVH qualities. (Noise vibration harshness). Can't say if that was what they were for specifically in this case, but I have seen many applications where they are used.
 
I'm not a welding expert, but I have an O/A set up for my use in my shop. I've learned that you can put too large a rosebud on your torch and the acetylene can't produce gas fast enough to fuel the torch. The torch will pop and go out. I read the question and answer section of the link you provided and an answer by Lincoln said "There is not a rosebud heating tip available this this kit."
 
Really, I will have to read that. Just read what you read and I think the answer that was given meant there was no rosebud tip included in this kit. I will call and get clarification tomorrow. The tech at Harris today said I need a number one and the tank will handle that fine but not for extended periods. I have been reading a lot of stuff online tonight and it seems you can bend it using the cutting tip but never hitting the cutting lever?? It will take longer to heat but probable a lot safer. I will have to read more
 
It has to do with the size of the acetylene tank. Smaller tanks don't convert the acetone as fast as a larger tank, therefore can't supply enough gas for high consumption tips. Although there is a misprint in Lincoln's answer, I think he meant that there is not a rosebud available that is rated for that size tank. You are on the right track seeking additional information.
 
As I said, not what they told me yesterday on the phone, but I will call back to get clarification. The reason you are giving is exactly why he was recommending the #1 tip and not a #2. I have been reading some more stuff online and I may try just heating with the cutting tip but never hitting the cutting lever. It will take longer to heat but hopefully will do the job. I have got a lot to learn because I have never operated welding torches before
 
I called them back and they again recommended the Rosebud tip and tube with the part numbers. They said that post did mean it did not come with the kit and apologized for the misunderstanding. He said with the size of these bottle I wont benefit much with the Rosebud tip vs the cutting tip that comes with the kit. I will give it a try with the cutting tip...and of course I will NOT be hitting the cutting lever...LOL
 
Seems like you are thinking about the issue, very good. Set on a direct. At some point nothing is better then just doing it. Research is crucial. Time to just do it.


I'm a think,think, do guy... not a do,do, think...... I think. :)
 
using Oxy/acetylene is serious business from what I am learning. Don't forget, I am totally new to this and I don't want to blow myself up. I ordered a big 6'x8'welding blanket from Amazon last night. I also still need to put the kit together. Very busy at the moment with pre-Winter chore around the house
 
A bit of a learning curve, but not that much for non-welding applications. You should be up to speed quickly.
 
It is more the safety of the whole thing, not getting good at it aspect. I am more worried about what order to shut valves off and turn on stuff, leaks, and stupid mistakes
 
I've never had any issue with the equipment itself, more a concern of what is around what you are working on. Grease and other flammable material in the area are what you need to keep an eye on.
 
good advise from jseery. years ago i needed a short piece of pipe and the only one i could find was a whole 20' stick. so i drug it into the garage and fired up the torch. while making the cut i heard that familiar "whump" sound that gas makes when lit. the brain remembered it from dad lighting piles of leaves in the fall. anyway, a spark had traveled down the whole length of the pipe and found the tin oil drain pan with some gas in it from cleaning some parts a day or so before. it was outside near the edge of the concrete apron, so i was able to just shove it out on the gravel and tip it over to save my pan. not a crisis, but it very well could have been. keep an eye on where your sparks from a grinder are flyin too, they will always find a rag or paper towel in my mess.
 
Tinker said:
Do you have a drop axle also? The weight of the later engine might be lowering things a bit also.


Might think about a drop steering arm. Mods need mods. Drag connects to one spindle (across the car), "tie" rod runs to the other spindle (spindle to spindle). I think most are on board there.


You might have drop spindles for the tie rod. Which why they clear but your steering arm (drag) may not be.


Just a thought.



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Is a drop steering arm something you can buy somewhere?
 
or something you can make........ dude figure out what your condition is in. but seriously what are you doing? No doubt we will have another post about oil pans.
 
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