‘32 a400

[V8COOPMAN]

Re: ‘32 a400

My good friend Jake Jacobs bought that car from Nick at one of his open house/swap meets in the 1990's.

Sheldon ....I haven't heard mention of Jim Jacobs ("Jake") in eons! Certainly, you must remember this former "magazine guy" riding passenger in this coupe? DD

 

[Krylon32]

Re: ‘32 a400

Looks like Bud Bryan? I built a 32 chassis for Bud for his current roadster pickup

 

[V8COOPMAN]

Re: ‘32 a400

Looks like Bud Bryan? I built a 32 chassis for Bud for his current roadster pickup

Yup.....Bud Bryan, pic taken in 2010. DD
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[bobH]

Re: ‘32 a400

When I contacted him, Ed said that it "was sold" . . . guess we'll see if/when it turns up again.

Interesting.... The auction site says bid to 80.1 and not sold and reserve not met. 'Course that doesn't really mean anything - could be sold outside of the auction.

 

[tomcarman]

Re: ‘32 a400

'32 B400

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/19...aily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2022-01-12

The B400 convertible sedan is the rarest of all 1932 Ford body styles with approximately 845 produced, including this unrestored, original-condition survivor.

Not knowing actual production numbers I'd always believed the '32 Roadster Pickup was the lowest produced model. I don't have the resources to verify this. Perhaps others could clarify?
Tom

 

[V8COOPMAN]

Re: ‘32 a400

'32 B400

https://www.hemmings.com/auction/19...aily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2022-01-12

The B400 convertible sedan is the rarest of all 1932 Ford body styles with approximately 845 produced, including this unrestored, original-condition survivor.

Not knowing actual production numbers I'd always believed the '32 Roadster Pickup was the lowest produced model. I don't have the resources to verify this. Perhaps others could clarify?
Tom

I believe you may be correct. I also thought that about 59 (fifty-nine) 1932 sedan deliveries were the number of examples built. DD
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[tomcarman]

Re: ‘32 a400

I believe you may be correct. I also thought that about 59 (fifty-nine) 1932 sedan deliveries were the number of examples built. DD
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I don't know which is why I ask for a higher authority with knowledge. It offends me when a claim is made such as "The rarest of all 1932 body styles" as if expected that a potential sale may be made on false premise. I have many old Ford parts I don't know anything about which is why I get verification as to what they are before I try to put them back into service. I'm an honest straight up guy and if a lie has been told count me out. As David G warns, Caveat Emptor .

 

[DavidG]

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It would be an accurate claim if the wording included "passenger car", however, where the 845 figure comes from, who knows? According to Ford's records, there were 1,296 '32 convertible sedans produced world wide, with 926 of those produced in the U.S..

The rarest '32 body type was the deluxe pickup with only 68 produced worldwide (all in the U.S.), followed by the late-released sedan delivery with 406 produced worldwide and the open cab (on both commercial and big truck chassis) at 601 worldwide. (I have not heard of or seen a single surviving deluxe pickup body and only one photo of it exists in Ford's surviving records.)

 

[Deuce-Addict]

Re: ‘32 a400

It would be an accurate claim if the wording included "passenger car", however, where the 845 figure comes from, who knows? According to Ford's records, there were 1,296 '32 convertible sedans produced world wide, with 926 of those produced in the U.S..

The rarest '32 body type was the deluxe pickup with only 68 produced worldwide (all in the U.S.), followed by the late-released sedan delivery with 406 produced worldwide and the open cab (on both commercial and big truck chassis) at 601 worldwide. (I have not heard of or seen a single surviving deluxe pickup body and only one photo of it exists in Ford's surviving records.)

Absolutely fascinating David, very much enjoy learning from you.

With less than a third of the convertible sedans produced outside of the U.S. and the far harsher climate as a whole in Europe than the U.S., I find it incredible how many of the survivors have surfaced in Europe, the title car included. Aside from the below, I know a couple of the hot rodded convertible sedans started life in Sweden too (a lilac fenderless one and a mildly rodded blue one). I believe there was a collector in Hawaii that kept records on the surviving convertible sedans (Sheldon - is he still around, I believe he had a 4 cyl B-400?). Keith

 

[deuce lover]

Re: ‘32 a400

Keith, The owner of that 32 4cyl passed away around 2014. 43 4 cyl B400's made according to the book by George DeAngelis. Sheldon

 

[rockfla]

Re: ‘32 a400

Keith, The owner of that 32 4cyl passed away around 2014. 43 4 cyl B400's made according to the book by George DeAngelis. Sheldon

Sheldon

Was that the B400 you and I talked about that was for sale on Ebay? I seem to remember that B400 4cyl in Hawaii on Ebay for sale in the mid/late 1990's??


Keith
Interesting on the photo line up, of ALL the ones pictured, not sure how many of those were European built but only two had the "Euro" raised hood side panels. Funny, our 32 gets mistaken for a B400 A lot!!!

 

[Deuce-Addict]

Re: ‘32 a400

Sheldon

Was that the B400 you and I talked about that was for sale on Ebay? I seem to remember that B400 4cyl in Hawaii on Ebay for sale in the mid/late 1990's??


Keith
Interesting on the photo line up, of ALL the ones pictured, not sure how many of those were European built but only two had the "Euro" raised hood side panels. Funny, our 32 gets mistaken for a B400 A lot!!!

Robert
David would be best to answer re European built. I can't answer whether exported from the U.S. complete when new back in 1932, sent in knock down (KD) form or complete assembly but all those in the images are cars that either remain in or were from Europe. I know that some were at least assembled in European plants as my 4 cyl B-400 had a chassis stamped 'Made in Germany' from the Koln plant. I believe the cars in those images to have come from Denmark x2, Sweden, Switzerland, Spain and Holland, am not certain on the black and white image or the car that started this thread.

Sheldon, thanks re the guy from Hawaii, sad news. I have the name 'Ed' in my mind, was that him?

Keith

 

[deuce lover]

Re: ‘32 a400

I went to see that 4cyl B400 in about 1997.I'm not sure it was listed on EBAY. I think that is when EBAY was born so new to the world.

 

[deuce lover]

Re: ‘32 a400

Robert
David would be best to answer re European built. I can't answer whether exported from the U.S. complete when new back in 1932, sent in knock down (KD) form or complete assembly but all those in the images are cars that either remain in or were from Europe. I know that some were at least assembled in European plants as my 4 cyl B-400 had a chassis stamped 'Made in Germany' from the Koln plant. I believe the cars in those images to have come from Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Spain and Holland, am not certain on the black and white image or the car that started this thread.

Sheldon, thanks re the guy from Hawaii, sad news. I have the name 'Ed' in my mind, was that him?
Keith

Yes,Ed Lum

 

[RB]

Re: ‘32 a400

Seem to recall a photo here or on the hamb of several B400 bodies lined up as if to be shipped or on the receiving end of a shipment .

 

[DavidG]

Re: ‘32 a400

Sheldon,


The data in the DeAngelis/Francis book is U.S. production only. Worldwide, 154 of the 1,296 convertible sedans produced were powered by Model B four-cylinder engines.

 

[deuce_roadster]

Re: ‘32 a400

I have a friend who lives about 50 miles from me that has a 4 cyl 32 B400. He and his cousin went down to CA and drove it up here to Washington back in the 60s or very early 70s.
It is still in his garage and never has been for sale since he bought it. It is not for sale under any circumstances either. I love looking at it because of its rarity. Makes my 33 standard phaeton with original top (216 built I think) seem common!

 

[V8COOPMAN]

Re: ‘32 a400

I have a friend who lives about 50 miles from me that has a 4 cyl 32 B400. He and his cousin went down to CA and drove it up here to Washington back in the 60s or very early 70s.
It is still in his garage and never has been for sale since he bought it. It is not for sale under any circumstances either. I love looking at it because of its rarity. Makes my 33 standard phaeton with original top (216 built I think) seem common!

Ya know Mike, you need to expose a pic or two of that phaeton on occasion for those of us that give a damn, yet have forgotten what it looks like! I seem to remember one picture of it waiting for a ferry.....years ago! DD
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[deuce_roadster]

Re: ‘32 a400

Dick, when it quits raining, and the sun comes out to warm up a bit, I will take it out for a drive and some current pictures! 2 owners ago was a guy who rebuilt 33-34 radios so of course he put one in it but that is one of the few things I need to remove to take it back to the way it should be. Was repainted once, has a 12" rip in the RF fender but is in pretty good shape for its age. 3 owners ago put blue vinyl over the original interior. When the original top goes bad (it is rock hard) I will restore it but as a "patina car" it is pretty good. I had some KH bent spokes and put those on. All the odd standard things are there, 1 black horn, black windshield frame and stantions, no ashtry hole in dash, plain door panels. I don't know if the cowl lights were originally paid for by the original owner as an accessory or if the radio guy added them. I have the original side curtons that came with the car too. The previous owner who I got it from over the years got all 4 fenders NOS as well as NOS inner fender panels. I am having a lot of fun with it like it is. When I drive to a local car show and park next to a shiny finished car, everyone comes and looks a this one!! Forgot to mention all top irons are painted black not chrome too.

 

[deuce_roadster]

Re: ‘32 a400

Dick, If you go to my albums, there is one of the 33 with a few pictures, a couple are on the ferry. With that original top, 20 years ago I told the previous owner that would never make it to Bend Oregon from Seattle. Well, he and I drove it to Bend, and back to Seattle and the top is still there. I drove it from Seattle to my place here in Shelton on the freeway, no problems.