'32 4-Banger in this Forum or Model A section??

DD....ok...figured that to.....tomorrow....I'm not at my regular computer. Your'e my 'wingman'..Delta-Zulu.... out.
Jim32...front - K-H 16 x 4" Firestone 525-16....rear K-H 16 x 4 1/2" Firestone 700-16
Machine girl...don't know who done the head...engine was put together in 2000 by Max H&H Flatheads. Have not gotten in touch with them yet.
 
A question for the experts. Not a criticism by the way because I love the look of the engine and whole car, but how does the engine cope with the 3 x 2 carbs at full throttle?
 
47Merc

I was thinking that also / & Progresive linkage To Boot. :D
I don't know why I would want to but I should be able to put 6X2's :eek: with progresive linkage on my 8ba. & get away with it ~~~

While We are mentioning Progresive linkage can any one please explain why there is such negitive attitude twords using it.

( PLEASE USE SMALL WORDS MY BRAIN IS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY I ATE SO MUCH ROAD KILL YESTERDAY ) :(
 
Engine runs great at full throttle on the 3 carbs. I have a lot to learn on these 4-Bangers, as I did not build the engine, nor did I ever have one, much less than work on one. I bought Jim Brierley’s book…4 Banger and Me….and this is a real eye opener on these ‘put aside’ engines. Story goes that the Flathead V8 only started winning meets after the war, and that the 4 Bangers dominated the scene prior to that. If you read the section on this engine in the 1932 Ford Book, it states the engine at 200.5 cu. in. and has more torque that the ’32 V8. Most of the speed equipment was developed for the ‘T’ and the ‘A’, and when the improved ‘B’ and ‘C’ 4 Banger came into being, well, all hell broke loose on modifying this motor. In reading Jim’s book, it really is a shock & eye opener on the performance these engines have. ( 200 mph + at the Salt Flats ) This engine is also bored out .080, the Riley Racing overhead set-up has 2 intake valves / cylinder, the 4 port design allows better air intake, removing the Siamese sharing of two cylinders, the exhaust valve is 1.750, and these engines can rev 5,000 rpm +. Yes, it can put a V8 to shame, as it did in the early days. Jim’s book also mentions that these engines need air…hence, 3 carbs are not a problem. More pics for DD to blow up.
 

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Brendan said:
the guys in the A forum will freak out! if you talk about juice brakes and T 5 trans they get mad that is a bad *** banger motor by the way I bet your car goes like hell!
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This is an understatement. Gotta like the b motor what do you think the horsepower is now?
Todd 3131
 
Well the V8 flatheads came in diff sizes/ cu in. If you take FOUR cylinder B...bore it to 4" and stroke it a 'little'...voila...239 cu in. Add in some other goodies, with a properly prepared crank and some flywheel alteration, and it all adds up to some great torque and a 'few' extra rpms ! Does 239 sound familiar to V8 flathead guys ? Yup, that's what is coming together soon :) !
Breathing is a LOT more than adding carbs. Actually the carbs/configuration/# is figured out to compliment the breathing aspect..cu in/ comp ratio/ head configuration/ exhaust type, cam/ valves...etc
 
Theres alot of OHV equipment for the four cylinder engine. Apart from the Ardun heads there is very little OHV stuff for the V8, and how many of those do you regularly see running? Breathing is the real answer to power, so the 4 Bangers have a real advantage here.
We have in the region of 180 hp on a standard bore A block with fully machined steel crank, drilled for full pressure oil to the big ends, Dan Price hi volume pump, special billet steel Newman cam, Miller OHV head, light flywheel, Austin Healey hi ratio rockers. Currently runs Ross forged pistons with 10mm pop-up to get 9.8:1 compression ratio. 2 side draft 1 3/4" SU carbs for the in, and tuned 4 branch manifold for the out. Comes with stump pulling torque!
 
The more I discuss about a 4-Banger, the more I realize the interest of so many. Are these engines coming 'out of the woodwork', as I never even thought of them before, being so busy with the V8's. It's a known fact that OHV can take a lot more compression ratios, hence more power. Max, at H&H built this motor and it dynoed at 160 HP. I would imagine that some sort of parts combination on tuning was involved to obtain a fair result. With better breathing, a 286* cam at .310 lift, 4 ports and 3 carbs...it runs pretty hot ( power wise ) Tom W...180 HP.....interesting....& 'Good Show, ole Boy'....now I have to educate myself with the 4-Banger Guys.
 
Hey Tom,
FNG (as they say over hamb) Tod Buttermore is involved with something ,IMO, revolutionary big changes for you/me , regarding new blocks to support our sickness :) !
Check out hamb POLL and threads related...you will find interesting , I'm sure ! Tod instills confidence in his endeavors to build new Model A and B blocks ...with modern tech and metallurgy ! If he can produce what he states that he can...well it's exciting ! Talk about breathing...that is/has been a SHORT coming of these two blocks from ford. If Tod can 'straighten' that out..alone ..would solve lots of problems. However , Tod is going to make US full oil pressure blocks with FIVE MAINS and FIVE CAM BEARINGS...in B FORM :D. I have already built my 5x5 in my head and you can imagine the HP. Concurrently, there are others creating more OHV head versions. One in development (for racing mostly) will increase an old guys blood pressure,eh :eek:
 
Robert,

Your coupe looks like a candidate for the ROG! That is if you like racing on the beach.

Keep 4-banging!
 
Looks like fun....do you have any info/dates. Maybe I should find a set of bald tires...for the sand. Do we get a Free Car Wash afterwards?
 

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Not a fan of the red and black under side.... but it beats the crap out of mine so you can do what you want :D.
 
Jim 1932.....you don't like red.....I'm with you....stuff done in the past....all that's red will soon be the Satin Nickel finish like I did on the front end...Is that OK with ya?...Robert
 

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