'30 Tudor Refresh

Will,
Congrat's:D Iffin' I had your car, I'd just do up the wiring, make 'er safe, scrub her good, and drive her to ALL the shows and feel REAL PROUD!:D Money can't buy that kind of patina!
THAT IS A REAL LOW MILER, AS THE ADVANCE KNOTCHES AREN'T EVEN WORN!!
Do you know what color blue she is? Mine is the same and everybody tells me a different name! I think "VERMIN" is Lombard Blue. Avatar pic looks 'sorta green. (not green!) My Ghost calls it BAFFLIN' BLUE.:eek: If I can find the +*^$%@+"$@ Ghost, I'm 'gonna spray him Ford engine green so he can't sneak up on me!!:p:p Bill W.
 
Careful with that steel two blade fan. They have been know to go thru the radiator and the top of the hood.
 
Hey Tincup - thanks for the tip, and you would really be scared if you saw the fan in person! My water pump is shot, too, so I will replace the fan and the pump at the same time. I know it isn't original, but I feel good about driving with the plastic fan.

Bill Williamson - I am not sure of the original color, this blue is not original. But it looks like it was originally blue from the spots I can see inside the doors. Not Andalusite, more of a chalky medium blue. My understanding is Lombard was the only other blue at the time? Not sure what Lombard looks like, I should do a search on that.

GW - thanks for the tip on the terminal box, I am getting ready to install a repro and will look it over carefully. It is amazing how many ways you can screw up such a simple car by using bad repro parts!!!! This car has a lot of nice original parts that I am not used to seeing, and I am enjoying cleaning them up and reusing them.

I have most of my goodie boxes in hand and am picking up a couple more items tomorrow. Hopefully I will finish up the wiring this weekend and will have some new pics.

Will Kimble
www.kimblemandolins.com
 
Congrats on new Tudor!!!......be patient and test fit all the new stuff first to make sure before that final cinch down. Read and re-read all the manuals, maybe a midnight sneak into the garage to test fit another, wait for a nice warm sunny day to prime and paint any parts. Please keep posting and we'll help out.
 
That's a sweet look-in car a little TLC
And you will driving the wheels off if.
Stock or Hot Rod
Have fun with it
 
If you don't want to use an original fan, Snyder's makes a nice aluminum fan that looks like the original and IMHO looks better than the 6 blade plastic fan.
 
When I mounted a repro terminal block, the terminal bolts came through from the back of the block, each set into a hole in the block. I used a leather punch to stamp out round pieces of rubber inner tube that would fit into the holes on the back of the block. Simple to do and should insulate the bolts from the firewall forever.
 
I agree with Tom and Tincup, I just bought one of the aluminum 2 blade fans and it is nice, well worth the money.
 
Hello Will- That color combination and layout on the body looks good on a tudor. BTW, about a year ago there was a thread on the "barn" about bluegrass and Model A's with several people active in both.
 
Bill Williamson has got me wondering - what color was my car originally?

I took a closer look at the options in the Schild book and it appears Lombard blue was not an option for tudors until September of '30 and this car is from April. The only blue at that time was Andalusite.

There is no welting around the gas tank, is that a sign that the gas tank came out at some point? The cockpit area of the gas tank should be the same as the main body color, right?

Was the inside of the body (floor, inner door panels, etc.) always painted black or should it be the main body color?

The next time it is sunny I will spend some time loooking around and sand a few strategic places to see what turns up.

Will
 
Will Kimble said:
Bill Williamson has got me wondering - what color was my car originally?

Was the inside of the body (floor, inner door panels, etc.) always painted black or should it be the main body color?
Will
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All the inside panels I have seen were body color
 
Will Kimble said:
There is no welting around the gas tank, is that a sign that the gas tank came out at some point? The cockpit area of the gas tank should be the same as the main body color, right?
Will
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yes and yes

Your car was painted with the doors and gas tank installed
 
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Will Kimble said:
I took a closer look at the options in the Schild book and it appears Lombard blue was not an option for tudors until September of '30 and this car is from April. The only blue at that time was Andalusite. Will
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If your going to correctly restore the car you will need a copy of the Model A Judging Standards, the Model A Ford Paint & Finsih Guide 3rd Ed. and the Ford Service Bulletins. According to the paint guide your car could be painted Andalusite Blue, Lombard Blue, Kewanee Green, Copra Drab, Thorne Brown or Black.
 
Very sunny day here - it looks like the lower (inside) part of the gas tank still has the original paint, and it looks like Andalusite blue to me. The inner door panels look about the same. The inner panels that hold the rear window regulators look black to me, as does the floor.
 
Got the wiring finished up today, here are a couple follow up pictures:

NewWiring.jpg


NewDash.jpg


Some things you can't see - I took off the old muffler (in rusty chunks) and replaced it with an Aries, and I added a ground from the transmission to the ground strap bolt. Also replaced the distributor body, cap, condenser, rotor and adjusted the timing.

The car fired up instantly and runs really nice. I think I am still only about 75% on the carburetor and distributor, need to spend some time fine tuning them. But the car runs strong and starts easily, and will easily go faster than these rotting, out-of-round tires can handle.

I have always used an alternator in the past, but my friend Mac Van Pelt had some rebuilt Model A generators in his stash and I traded some trans parts for one of them. So far so good, gotta learn how to adjust the brushes.

I also got a NOS distributor body from Mac, maybe it was for a Model B because it pressed down on the spark arm when I first put it on. I filed that area down until it cleared and it fits great now.

I decided to separate the wiring into two steps - this took care of the engine stuff but I still have to do the light harness.

Next up is all of the coolant stuff - new water pump, fan and hoses. I still haven't settled on a fan, what are the pros and cons of the four blade fans like were used on Model Bs?

Thanks,
Will Kimble
www.kimblemandolins.com
 
Wiring looks good on engine now!If I were you,I would replace the cheap ign switch & cable & buy a good quality switch that looks like a pop-out,but doesnt *pop*.you can also buy the heavy armoured cable that looks original under the hood but has a terminal on the end for the switch.The cheap switches are known to cause trouble.I never use the cable clamp on cyl head as it makes it a PITA to remove dist & it could cause coolant to leak into cyls.As for the fan,use the new aluminum 2-blade.It looks original,cools well & you can remove WP much easierThe 4-blade wont cool any better.When installing fan,use a thin hard steel washer behind the nut or nut will work into the softer metal & become loose.
 
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