2000 cc pinto engine in model a

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Why stop a just a pinto engine, one day when I came to work this was waiting for me, looks like the whole driveline and subframe would fit under the rear of an A, could leave the stock engine up front for looks----the 6 screws to adjust the throttle could keep anyones needs to tinker met---I told the owner he would notice the change if I put the A engine in, that he would be impressed in the increased low end torque
 

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jackson32 said:
Is there any interest in putting 2000 cc pinto mustang motor in the Model A aby more I alweays wanted to do it and never got to it. The ones I saw were very nice cars to drive on the hiway and in traffic. What is going on here and now.
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Buy a Shay Replica and you will have a Pinto engine.
 
Several people in the Fresno club have Pintos and swear by them. I have a 31 pick-up that I haven't finished yet and it has a 2000cc Pinto. I believe many have the overdrive and drive them like modern day cars.
 
Years ago, Hudson Wagon Works published a how-to booklet on installing a Pinto (i.e., Lima) engine in a Model A. IIRC, it even had templates for motor mounts, etc. Last I heard, the business had changed hands and was called just Wagon Works [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica](213 SW Kline St, Ankeny, Iowa 50023-2639, 515-964-5085). I[/FONT]f they're still around, it might be worth asking if they have a copy, or otherwise tracking one down.

More than you ever wanted to know about the Lima:

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=317117&highlight=pinto

Also google for the Shay forum (yeah, yeah, I know) - more info on modding the Lima.
 
What I would like to see is Ford's new 1.0L Ecoboost engine adapted to a Model A. 100 HP with engine torque of 170Nm between 1,400rpm and 4,500rpm and an engine block small enough to fit on a piece of paper. Put a 5 or 6 speed behind it and I know your Model A would fly!
 
FL&WVMIKE said:
Here's an unique idea - How about a Chevy 350 ?
You get torque and speed.
MIKE :)
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I've got one of those and I think it's great, that's what hot rodders were doing when I was a kid. I get grief from EVERYBODY for that, and I do understand your sarcasm.
However I am keeping my 28' stock.
 
I saw these this week end, both guys were as happy as they could be with the them, although the guy with the Crager said it over heated in stop and go traffic.
He also said he's had it 57 years, so I guess he's learned to tolerate it!
 

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CHuDWah said:
Years ago, Hudson Wagon Works published a how-to booklet on installing a Pinto (i.e., Lima) engine in a Model A. IIRC, it even had templates for motor mounts, etc. Last I heard, the business had changed hands and was called just Wagon Works [FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica](213 SW Kline St, Ankeny, Iowa 50023-2639, 515-964-5085). I[/FONT]f they're still around, it might be worth asking if they have a copy, or otherwise tracking one down.
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When the business changed owners, the booklet wasn't passed on to the new owner.
 
I wouldn't fuss around with some sissy Pinto putt-putt. All that work for an already discredited piece of automotive engineering? Nah. A 327 and 4:11 gears will get you off the line and down the road with no traffic worries from the rice burners. Might have to box the frame with the added torque. VW bucket seats drop right in and you can install some seat belts so you're safe at any speed. If you're not too large, a chop and channel would look sharp, with bobbed fenders. Candy apple red.
 
The Pinto engine lived on, after the Pinto was gone. Last time I looked into this, I was thinking along the line of one of the turbo-charged versions, as used in SVO Mustang's and other Ford products, post Pinto. As I recall, I think the turbo-charged version has a lower CR, which I thought at the time would be more 'pump-friendly'. And, part of my plan was to ditch the turbo, FI, and all the electronics, and use a carb and 'old-style' ignition. Anyway, this was just a dream, I never did it, and today I've gotten over it and wouldn't do it. Just opinion....
 
You can still find plenty of Pinto 2.3 engines,they are in the Rangers,they just have fuel injection and dual plug heads.I just retired one with 363,000 miles on it.I worked on the Pintos when they were new.They took a perfectly good engine,with a good track record in Europe,emissioned it to death,which included squeezing the oil passages down to prevent any excess oil burning.I saw the results of that dozens of times.On top of that the crude emission junk made the things rev way up when starting cold.It was like putting your foot halfway down when starting and holding it there.It's a wonder that so many of them lasted as long as they did.My sister bought a new 77 wagon for $1300. at the time of the exploding Pinto scare.About 1992 I aquired it and put in rings,bearings,cam,followers,and gaskets.No machine work was needed.My wife ran it for eight years,and I sold it.It is still going to this day.I saw it on a ramp truck and thought it was going for scrap.The driver told me it was headed to his shop for some brake lines.I think what saved that car was the distributer and carb I put on it.I worked at a salvage yard and we had dozens of those engines in industrial form.I used fuel and ignition from them and they ran great.I did have to run a hand choke,they were not equipped with automatics.
 
Here's a Ch*&y II engine (153 cid/90hp) with an automatic installed in a 1928 phaeton.Although I would rather have the original "four banger" it works real well and is a tidy installation...
 

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In 1975 when I put a B motor 4 port overhead in my 29 rst pickup, there were a few pinto powered A's arround. Wes Cooper helped me with the project and he sarcasticly said he wanted to put a Crager B in a Pinto.

Tim
 
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