Front and rear spring question. does anyone have the measurements c/c of spring eyes for a nos unloaded spring? Also is there any difference between an early forty frame and a late frame. Are the rear fender supports for a coupe double or single Chanel, thanks in advance v8-nut.
1940 ford 5 window coupe
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Can anyone supply the modern paint codes for folk stone gray (1940 green), sounds like no one is reproducing 40 running board covers except vintique! has anyone used them lately and are they any good.can anyone tell me how thick is the wood package tray and how many ply’s is the wood and also is the two pieces in the trunk the same. Thanks in advance v8-nut.
GaryU.
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Here's a link to the 1940 Ford book by Barn member Kube, probably a good investment to answer some of your questions,
https://shop.efv8.org/collections/f...ok-softbound-single-book-shipping-rates-apply
https://shop.efv8.org/collections/f...ok-softbound-single-book-shipping-rates-apply
Kube
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Please search for this thread and specifically posts #6 and #8.
39 ford spring measurement
I will do my best to get the measurements you desire later today.
Frames were not changed during '40 model production.
The rear fender supports were "two ply" channel.
Kube
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Folkstone Gray is NOT green by any stretch of imagination.
Photos attached of Folkstone Gray.
I'd be leery of any Vintique product. More often than not, they peddle poor quality, well, let's just say "crap".
What two pieces of wood in the trunk???? Explain please.
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19Fordy
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The 2 removable wood pieces of wood located at the rear floor of the trunk floor and cover the recess where the tool kit was originally stored are 3/8 inch thick on my 40. They are original. You can see them partially covered by the floor mat near the floor latch. Look here:
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79688&highlight=1940+trunk+floor
If you need to make them, I can trace the outline and send you a template.
I don't know if DRAKE still makes them but they are listed here.
http://www.allfordparts.com/shop/ca...940-coupe-convertable-trunk-tool-cover-boards
https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79688&highlight=1940+trunk+floor
If you need to make them, I can trace the outline and send you a template.
I don't know if DRAKE still makes them but they are listed here.
http://www.allfordparts.com/shop/ca...940-coupe-convertable-trunk-tool-cover-boards
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Yes sorry for the Freudian slip i meant cloud mist gray also I do have Mike kubarths 40 book but there is no reference to any modern paint codes and my local paint store can’t do anything with the original paint codes and I don’t think that the paint swatches in the book truly represent the original colours thanks v8- nut
Kube
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I'd restored two '40 Fords in the past few years and painted them both Cloudmist.
I use Chromabase.
Gallon:
806J HS BLACK, 351.2
832J GREEN, 633.8
801J HS WHITE, 795.7
881J HS YELLOW OXIDE, 858.6
150K B/C BALANCER, 2746.9
175K BINDER, 3508.5
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V8COOPMAN
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Amazing the difference in PERCEIVED color as represented on the computer screen, knowing that the two different batches of paint came from the same recipe. Likely differences are lighting when pictures were taken, and possibly even aging between the two different paint application dates. And who's to say that the paint supplier guy didn't manage to put an extra squirt of BLACK in there, somehow? I actually like the PERCEIVED color as seen on the truck. But who cares what I think?
The Coopman
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19Fordy
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Here's an old B and W photo of my 40 with original Folkstone grey paint.
Not a trace of green. Always reminded me of smooth grey primer with a bit of a shine.
Restored with junkyard sheet metal and axle when you could still find 1940s in junk yards.
I repainted it black in 1978.
Not a trace of green. Always reminded me of smooth grey primer with a bit of a shine.
Restored with junkyard sheet metal and axle when you could still find 1940s in junk yards.
I repainted it black in 1978.
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petehoovie
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Kube
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Who cares what you think? Me. I do.
Please, rest assured the paint was mixed to exact standards each time. There was perhaps a two-year span between these restorations.
You can also rest assured that as a photographer, well, I suck.
You are spot on that lighting plays a huge part in how the color is perceived.
Folkstone Gray, in my opinion seems to change color a LOT if it's in the bright sun vs. the shade.
deuce_roadster
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There are multiple reasons pictures often do not really represent the actual color of anything when displayed on a computer. As mentioned above, lighting of the original picture is crucial, the sensitivity of the device taking the picture, the sensitivity of the device sending the picture, the video card of the displaying device all play into how the pixels and their codes for color are reproduced on your computer screen.
I DO know that the Restoration Shop (TCP Global) mix of Cloud Mist Gray urethane was indistinguishable from the original shiny paint under the tar paper on the floor of my 46k mile 40 V8 coupe. It also matches the paint from a gallon can of Ditzler lacquer that was mixed in the 1950s that came with the car.
Take a picture of your car, have it printed and then take it out and hold it against the car. It rarely will match the paint.
The color your eye sees is the reflection of the light off the surface of the car (or anything) as perceived by your brain. I had an uncle that was totally colorblind which is uncommon, and everything for him were shades of gray.
I DO know that the Restoration Shop (TCP Global) mix of Cloud Mist Gray urethane was indistinguishable from the original shiny paint under the tar paper on the floor of my 46k mile 40 V8 coupe. It also matches the paint from a gallon can of Ditzler lacquer that was mixed in the 1950s that came with the car.
Take a picture of your car, have it printed and then take it out and hold it against the car. It rarely will match the paint.
The color your eye sees is the reflection of the light off the surface of the car (or anything) as perceived by your brain. I had an uncle that was totally colorblind which is uncommon, and everything for him were shades of gray.
V8COOPMAN
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NOT trying to be in the least facetious (for which I am fully capable and highly-qualified), I'm trying to imagine how a "totally colorblind" individual would have a clue as to what GRAY even is, or how to possibly describe it as such. Not the first time I've heard of situations like this. Just sayin'!
Coop
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deuce_roadster
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Dick, he explained it as different shades of "dark", kind of like a black and white picture looks to us where black and white appear to mix as what we call gray. He never actually used the term gray we did.. You facetious fellow! Where did that Phi Beta Kappa PhD in Facetiousness come from??!!
Mike
P.S. Can't believe you still have that block and parts for sale. What a deal.
Mike
P.S. Can't believe you still have that block and parts for sale. What a deal.
V8COOPMAN
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I can fully buy that explanation!
I wasn't trying to allude to being "PhD qualified" in Facetiousness .... I'm just reasonably accomplished with it!
I can't believe I've only had one nibble pertaining to the French flatty & stuff. Hell, there were bare blocks being offered for $5K on the 'Bay' about three weeks ago. Maybe I need to raise the asking price?
DD/Coop
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Bob NH
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I can very well relate to the color blind problem, While training for tank core duty headed for Germany, I missed 16 out of 25 numbers in poker dotted flip charts. Guy said "you are not going to go shooting at our tanks" so you are staying state side ! Very pleased by the call as I had only been married 3 months. People say, how can u tell traffic lights ? No problem with those.