82ndscotty
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I guess one of my questions is....are both points suppose to spark when they open when the engine is turned over?
no one opens circuit the other closes it (to give you more dwell) Scotty
I guess one of my questions is....are both points suppose to spark when they open when the engine is turned over?
no one opens circuit the other closes it (to give you more dwell) Scotty
Basically, the "extra" right point closes before the left one could close after firing. The early closing (only one needs to be closed to complete circuit) allows more charging time/dwell for the coil to recover for the next shot.
Cycle is thus:
Both points open, 9 degrees after firing
then
right point closes and stays closed 22 1/2 degrees...coils starts loading
Left point closes 9 degrees before the right opens,stays closed 22 1/2
right point opens...coil continues to charge
then left opens, coil fires, repeat.
Both must be open to fire coil, but only one needs to be closed to charge the coil, so that's how the overlap helps.
Hope I got the cycle right...easier to follow if you rotate a distributor and watch than it is talking about it!
I posted field-expedient timing method on here recently I think.
Hard to make out but you may have the wrong rotor in there,would need better shot from the side more with the caps off. Also the cap on pic rt side dosent look like its on fully[gap at the bottom of photo] Rotor must have steps on both ends [like stair steps] to be correct. the smooth ones are for 34-36 not 37 up. Pin spacings are diff on the inner plate. ken ct.Hi,
Been working on getting this old engine running for a couple of weeks....engine turns over great....about 90lbs of pressure in each cylinder.
My problem is this weird distributor.....I removed it, cleaned the points, new condenser, set points to .15 etc...put it back on and can get spark on the right side points when I turn the engine clockwise with a wrench on the flywheel.....but the left side points will not spark unless I turn the engine counter clockwise.
When I say right side I mean when I'm looking at the front of the engine.
Is it possible when I replaced the distributor I put it in completely opposite of how it came out?....I did not mark the distributor when I removed it so I guess I messed up the timing?
I did not turn the motor over with the distributor removed.
This is an early 38 with the 21 stud motor....Eggshell or helmet distributor from what I have found online.
This is how it looked when I got it....it has been cleaned up since then.
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Yes that is a 4 speed and it did not come from the factory in that truck. Look at the metal transmission cover and you will notice that it has been "trimmed" to fit the 1 1/2 ton big truck transmission. Look through the slot in the floorboard or if you have removed it look on the spot on the transmission that would line up with the slot and you will see a serial number. This number should be the same as the number on the frame next to the steering box. Since the transmission is a later replacement, the two number will not be the same. If you will post the number on the transmission someone will tell you the year of it.Thanks....only thing missing is the tailgate.
I also have a question about the trans.....would it be a 4 speed? It has a switch as if it would have a 2 speed rear.
The number on the housing is 51-7006.....other side is a 78C stamp.
Hard to make out but you may have the wrong rotor in there,would need better shot from the side more with the caps off. Also the cap on pic rt side dosent look like its on fully[gap at the bottom of photo] Rotor must have steps on both ends [like stair steps] to be correct. the smooth ones are for 34-36 not 37 up. Pin spacings are diff on the inner plate. ken ct.
Mr Baker: I hope your having as much fun, as we reading what your doing, YES the 21 stud is a keeper....and what I see of your work, it going to be a truck to be proud of... must get the Ford green engine paint ...
Now the flip lever on the trans shift lever. you will need to pull it up/with your thumb, to put the trans in reverse. I don't remember is it up to the dash or down to the seat?
Give me a break, it was 1941/42 war years all the men were gone, as a 10 year old boy I was put to work, the truck we had was ether 38 or 39 We did take the sides off the hood to keep it cool in the summer.
Please tell us how good it sounds when it comes back to live .... OLD...BILL
Way ahead of me also. May have to sell both later this fall. Rod
Yes that is a 4 speed and it did not come from the factory in that truck. Look at the metal transmission cover and you will notice that it has been "trimmed" to fit the 1 1/2 ton big truck transmission. Look through the slot in the floorboard or if you have removed it look on the spot on the transmission that would line up with the slot and you will see a serial number. This number should be the same as the number on the frame next to the steering box. Since the transmission is a later replacement, the two number will not be the same. If you will post the number on the transmission someone will tell you the year of it.
Good start on a nice pickup!!
BTW, the "switch" or lever on the stick is the reverse lockout. Pull it up to get in reverse.
Reverse is all the way over right and down. To get into reverse use the trigger. It's an H pattern for forward gears and all the way right for reverse. 1st is up left and follow through for the rest of the gears.
Post some video when you get it started, if you will. Very cool truck.